Just got my first ever fine..

Sep 13, 2008 at 9:22 PM Post #16 of 50
i think on motorways the very outside lane should have a 90-100mph limit, germany has its limitless motorways why cant england?

maybe an advanced driving test that allows you to drive faster on major roads? i dunno, just scrap the speed cameras!! lol
 
Sep 13, 2008 at 10:30 PM Post #17 of 50
I did 157mph on a public road a few years back. Touch wood, I've not been caught to date.

Just thought I'd rub a little salt in your wound
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Sep 13, 2008 at 11:56 PM Post #18 of 50
Being an L.E.O., I've seen many, many speed related motor vehicle collision deaths. Consider yourself lucky you got away with a ticket.

75km/h may not seem fast, but its still 20.8 meters per second on a scooter.
 
Sep 14, 2008 at 11:41 AM Post #19 of 50
As a fellow head-fier, sorry to hear about your wallet. Seems that we would have said that if you bought the amp too, instead of paying a fine. ;-)
 
Sep 14, 2008 at 2:05 PM Post #20 of 50
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Originally Posted by AudioPhewl /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I did 157mph on a public road a few years back. Touch wood, I've not been caught to date.

Just thought I'd rub a little salt in your wound
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~Phewl.



Bike? nice btw
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Sep 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM Post #21 of 50
The first fine always hurt!
I have had only one fine (20 years of driving) and it certainly did hurt. Back in 1992 when I pulled 200kmh on the highway, but "just" measuring in at an average speed of 137kmh over a 7km distance by the police. $1000 and 6 months without a license...
 
Sep 14, 2008 at 3:14 PM Post #23 of 50
It's surprising how easily one can exceed the speed limit. We were on a trip about 35 years ago in our '69 Mustang Mach 1 and while traveling along on a deserted country road in Illinois farm country I happened to glance at the speedometer and see it wavering around a bit above 110 MPH.

Yeah; I suggested to the Wife that She'd better back off a little.

...of course in those days the patrolling tax collectors were happy to simply issue a fine and let you on your way. Today they'd just as soon put your life in the trash can for the same offense.
 
Sep 14, 2008 at 7:27 PM Post #24 of 50
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Bike? nice btw
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Nah, it was back when I had my Scooby, on a dead-quiet A50 in the very early hours of one morning in 2005. I've done something similar on a bike(wrong side of 150mph), but never felt the need with my newer one(Triumph Daytona 955i).

Think I've clipped 130-140mph when overtaking a queue of cars on it, but that wasn't an attempt to go fast so much as just trying to clear the traffic quickly.

It's scary how rapidly motorbikes will accelerate though. If I drop into 2nd at 60mph, I'll hit 100mph 3 seconds later, with 130-140mph not much further away using just 3rd gear. Should see a real 165mph if one persists...

All that and over 40mpg... so much more sense than a car
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. Most days I just pootle around and stick quite closely to the speed limits. And religiously-so in 30 and 40mph limits. Pisses me off when I see folk tear-arsing it in a residential area... they have no concept of what a difference 50% on top of the speed limit makes to reaction times and stopping distances where there are likely to be, shall we say "careless folk" around on foot and pushbikes.

~Phewl.
 
Sep 14, 2008 at 7:57 PM Post #25 of 50
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stick quite closely to the speed limits. And religiously-so in 30 and 40mph limits. Pisses me off when I see folk tear-arsing it in a residential area... they have no concept of what a difference 50% on top of the speed limit makes to reaction times and stopping distances where there are likely to be, shall we say "careless folk" around on foot and pushbikes.

~Phewl.



Indeed, I (genuinely) applaud your restraint in urban driving, - some interesting stuff from ROSPA

Drivers travelling at higher speeds have less time to identify and react to what is happening around them. It takes longer for the vehicle to stop. Any resulting crash is more severe, causing greater injury to the occupants and to any pedestrian or rider hit by the vehicle.

Driving too fast for the conditions is a major cause of crashes. Excessive speed contributes to 12% of all injury collisions, 18% of crashes resulting in a serious injury and 28% of all collisions which result in a fatality. This means that around 1,000 people are killed each year on Britain’s roads because drivers and riders travel too fast.

Approximately two-thirds of all crashes in which people are killed or injured happen on roads with a speed limit of 30 mph or less. At 30 mph vehicles are travelling at 44 feet (about 3 car lengths) each second. One blink and the driver may fail to see the early warning brake lights; one short glance away and the tell-tale movement of a child behind a parked car will be missed.
Even in good conditions, the difference in stopping distance between 30 mph and 35 mph is an extra 21 feet, more than 2 car lengths. At 35 mph a driver is twice as likely to kill someone as they are at 30 mph.

• Hit by a car at 40 mph, 9 out of 10 pedestrians will be killed
• Hit by a car at 30 mph, about half of pedestrians will live.
• Hit by a car at 20 mph, only 1 out of 10 pedestrian will be killed.

Unfortunately, most drivers exceed the speed limit at some time. Over half (53%) of car drivers, 48% of motorcyclists and 49% of HGV drivers exceed the 30mph speed limit in urban areas. On 40mph roads, over one quarter (27%) of car drivers and 36% of motorcyclists exceed the 40mph speed limit.4
Around 45% of fatal and serious road casualties, and 54% of fatalities, occur on rural roads. The reduction of casualties on these types of road has been much slower than on urban roads.

Reducing the average running speed of vehicles by just 1 mph would reduce the number of accidents by 5%. The reduction varies according to road type:
• 6% for urban main roads and residential roads with low average speeds;
• 4% for medium speed urban roads and lower speed rural main roads; and
• 3% for the higher speed urban roads and rural single carriageway main roads.

The greatest benefit would come from reducing the speeds of the faster drivers:
• if the proportion of speeders doubles, accidents go up by 10%;
• if their average speed goes up by 1mph, and all else is held constant, accidents go up by 19%; and
• if an individual drives more than 10 - 15% above the average speed of the traffic around them, they are much more likely to be involved in an accident.

Research also shows that drivers who exceed speed limits are more likely to be involved in crashes. They are also more likely to commit other road traffic offences such as close following, red-light running, and drinking and driving.
 
Sep 15, 2008 at 3:58 PM Post #27 of 50
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I did learn a lesson. Don't drive 70km/u on that road again.
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Seriously, driving 45km/u sucks. That's simply too slow in anyone's book. You're also bothering the rest of the traffic with 45km/u since they're going 60km/u.
I do accept the fine but it's completely out of proportion IMO. 120€ is just too much.



It actually sounds like they should increase the fine if it's not high enough yet to dissuade you from speeding.
 
Sep 15, 2008 at 5:15 PM Post #29 of 50
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Originally Posted by AudioPhewl /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Most days I just pootle around and stick quite closely to the speed limits. And religiously-so in 30 and 40mph limits. Pisses me off when I see folk tear-arsing it in a residential area...

~Phewl.



My dad drives his dream car, a Mercedes CL55 AMG, it is his only method of transport as he now disabled, and only drives a few times a week.

He was once on a motorway in a Sierra Cosworth, many years back when there were actual open speed limits in the UK, and opened the taps on the way back from a shift at 3am, he opened the taps right up to 150 odd mph, then a bird flew into his windscreen and hit the huge spoiler at the back! Mess! Its sad to think i will never actually be able to have fun like that in a car
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I understand the speed judging thing. My dad's car is so smooth and quiet (road noise wise, not engine when the taps are open!) that he is concentrating so much on the road, he doesnt realise. Once a Skyline was right up our arse on the approach to a dual carrige way my dad knows well, the lane opened up to two, and we left the skyline for dead, all the way up to 145mph, i told him we were going so fast, and he waqs surprised, and thought it felt like 120ish! That has happened once before too.

My dad always sticks to speed limits in built up residential areas, and where there are schools etc. but why cant he drive to his ability on a country lane he knows well, reading the road? All the teenagers who dont know how to drive fast all **** it up and die lower the speed limits and ruin it for everyone else...

It annoys me also that when i am driving i wont be able to drive fast anywhere, at any age, and it even scares me that i will never get to control a car for more than a year or two, and that we will end up running on tracks on 90% of roads, or will have GPS systems in our cars as standard which can work out average speeds etc. and get you done that way. I love cars, im worried i wont be able to control a car on most roads once i can drive, and i wont be able to go fast anywhere, and i am also worried i wont get freedom till 18 if they do up the age like they talk about... When will the government realise that there are less road deaths than when cars were invented and did 2mph, and that they are never going to reduce it to 0, there are always some idiots who kill themselves, and unfortunatley others
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I get the motorbike thing entireley, if i had the money i would get a scooter in January, and get to work on it every evening to save for a car, and sell it just before i buy one, then after that get a bike for fun, and in the future a few cars and bikes, some for on road, some for race, but i am considering maybe swapping that around, and getting a car when i have more money to spend on petrol, and the veihecle in the first place, and getting a scooter next year (if i get the money) and a bike after that, a supermoto i think, or a little 250cc sports bike... Then a car after, then more bikes and more cars if i have the money in 20 years time. Dad rode 200cc scooters that did 120mph, and his dads bikes, so he says as long as i learn properly and buy all the right gear, he doesnt mind, mum on the other hand says i cant have a scooter or a bike while under her roof...

Good job i would rather live with dad anyway when i finish secondary school!
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Matt
 
Sep 15, 2008 at 5:26 PM Post #30 of 50
I also don't know if I want a bike or a car license when I'm 18. I rather have a bike (though some are limited when you're under 21) but that should mean you'll have to get a bike as well. I probably won't have the money; a car would be more convenient.
Good thing I have some time before I'm 18. Also, for students there is this compensation of free public transport in the Netherlands. That would be waaay better.
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