JHaudio Universal IEMs?

[Jeremypsp]

Weird... I thought I saw wikipedia stating that his working on universals, though the evidence is gone now... 

 

[Jeremypsp]

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Hmm... Simply because I think the 232 is more balanced I guess? W4 seems very bright/flat IMO. I like the 4, just that after listening too much to SM3, my taste changed a bit.

W4 bright? They are totally dark to me. That's the only reason why I find fault with them... But the PFE232s lacks the highs extension for me. 

 

[Jeremypsp]

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It's a monetary source for JH.  Remember, JH is a business, and if they can get more business, why not?  As for BAs being at their best, I think the technology is just starting to shine and will continue to do so.  Looking at an IEM like the Phonak PFE 232 that is up there with the Westone 4, it really makes me wonder what would happen if someone actually tuned 4 drivers to their fullest today. 
 
So why would you want to dumpster dive into a lower price category?  Money, it's a source of money, face it, the general public doesn't want to pay 400+impressions for good headphones.  Many don't want to go through the process of getting impressions done.  I understand that JH makes professional products for professional use, so does UE and Westone.  Are you saying both of these companies dumpster dove into the lower price category?  Of course not, they found another audience they could sell to.  This would be a good move for JH if implemented correctly.
 
Regarding knock offs, you speak like every IEM ever made is knocked off.  Only the really popular ones get knocked off.  I've never heard of a knock off Westone or knock off Shure. 

Someone tuned 4 drivers to the fullest? The Fitear MH334 is there , now in universals and customs. 

 

[tomscy2000]

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Someone tuned 4 drivers to the fullest? The Fitear MH334 is there , now in universals and customs. 

True. Except they're ~$1300 and ~$1800, respectively for the TO GO! version and the custom version. FitEar is also pretty unknown outside of Japan.
 
If Jerry Harvey took the JH11 and did the same thing and marketed it toward musicians and professionals in the US, it'd surely sell in much higher volumes than the TOGO334, but the problem is how to scale production to those numbers. You saw those pictures I posted in the TOGO334 thread; those shells, though generic-fit, are still handmade --- which is why the first batch is already completely sold out.
 
When demand >> supply... price goes up. The trick for a company like JHA to do universal fit IEMs is to get a partner to scale their production for them, but as I understand, JHA is as cottage-run as any UM, Heir, etc. UE is by far the largest customs company in the industry, and they were only able to significantly scale up their production levels by being under the Logitech umbrella (which obviously has its own drawbacks).

 

[shotgunshane]

This is where the JH Audio universal was first mentioned:http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/print-edition/2010/12/10/jh-audios-earpieces-are-a-hit-with.html?page=all
 
It was only a one line mention:
JH Audio is on the path to launching a high-quality universal earphone to the mass market by summer 2011, said Harvey.
 
There was a thread on head-fi but I can't find it.  Maybe it was deleted?

 

[WooXIEE DJ]

I don't know... according to a audiophile friend of mine he said the universal demo version of the JH13s and his own custom JH13s are worlds apart.

 

[Jeremypsp]

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True. Except they're ~$1300 and ~$1800, respectively for the TO GO! version and the custom version. FitEar is also pretty unknown outside of Japan.
 
If Jerry Harvey took the JH11 and did the same thing and marketed it toward musicians and professionals in the US, it'd surely sell in much higher volumes than the TOGO334, but the problem is how to scale production to those numbers. You saw those pictures I posted in the TOGO334 thread; those shells, though generic-fit, are still handmade --- which is why the first batch is already completely sold out.
 
When demand >> supply... price goes up. The trick for a company like JHA to do universal fit IEMs is to get a partner to scale their production for them, but as I understand, JHA is as cottage-run as any UM, Heir, etc. UE is by far the largest customs company in the industry, and they were only able to significantly scale up their production levels by being under the Logitech umbrella (which obviously has its own drawbacks).

Underrated stuff are usually good, and you're paying for the quality

 

[tomscy2000]

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Underrated stuff are usually good, and you're paying for the quality

Preaching to the choir, my friend! I'm probably as big a FitEar fanboy as any around.
 
With that being said, JHA has the potential to bring custom-level sound to the masses, but I doubt they're going to. From the way everything looks like, Jerry and Brittany prefer to keep their operations limited to CIEMs, and prefer to just hang out with musicians all day long. (At least that's the impression I get from all the interviews I've watched and read) His exit from UE was already a semi-retirement of sorts, as he used the cash he got from the buyout to set up shop in Florida --- Florida!!! (Okay, that's a reference only people from the US will really get)

 

[Jeremypsp]

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Preaching to the choir, my friend! I'm probably as big a FitEar fanboy as any around.
 
With that being said, JHA has the potential to bring custom-level sound to the masses, but I doubt they're going to. From the way everything looks like, Jerry and Brittany prefer to keep their operations limited to CIEMs, and prefer to just hang out with musicians all day long. (At least that's the impression I get from all the interviews I've watched and read) His exit from UE was already a semi-retirement of sorts, as he used the cash he got from the buyout to set up shop in Florida --- Florida!!! (Okay, that's a reference only people from the US will really get)

Hmm, sounds true, though a possibility of universals is not totally impossible, since he did bring in the TF10 to start with. 

 

[tomscy2000]

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Hmm, sounds true, though a possibility of universals is not totally impossible, since he did bring in the TF10 to start with. 

I may be wrong, but the impression that I got was that he designed the TF10 to sweeten the deal for Logitech to come in and buy them out. Harvey, I'm pretty sure already wanted out for some time.

 

[Jeremypsp]

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I may be wrong, but the impression that I got was that he designed the TF10 to sweeten the deal for Logitech to come in and buy them out. Harvey, I'm pretty sure already wanted out for some time.

Who knows? The future is not meant to be told

 

[Staal]

How is that in any way "the future"? 

 

[Jeremypsp]

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How is that in any way "the future"? 

Meaning you never know whether his going to decide to make them or not.