luisdent
Headphoneus Supremus
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In terms of frequency response I disagree. I find everything I've ever seen measured from a good source matches what it should sound like perfectly... again, in terms of frequency. If you consider other factors than of course that won't give you the exact sound just by looking at a graph. But you need to be able to differentiate the other traits from the frequency response and describe them accordingly. I can't speak for every graph maker, as some try to "compensate" certain things, but I do believe an amp can have the same FR curve and sound different. However, I would be able to tell the FR is the same. Just like my ipod to my c5. They don't sound the same. But if you had asked me I would say the FR is identical. But there are differences that can give the impression of a different FR if you don't know what to listen for, such as spaciousness. Some people might attribute that to more treble, because that usually "clears things up". However, more treble comes with side effects, whereas spaciousness is a different thing all together.
If you take into account all of the phase shift, distortion, etc., that would all detract from clarity. Softer details are usually described as warm, so that would make sense if the e11 sounded warmer than the C5, as it is a more clear, crisper amp. But that doesn't mean the treble is necessarily less in amplitude than the c5, thereby have a similar curve. Also, solid state amplifiers are not always flat nowadays.
A lot of them have noticeable bass rolloff at the lowest end. Some have very high rolloff as well. But in general they are still very good and the middle areas are usually ruler flat. But anyhow, I think all of these opinions are good and valid. I'm just trying to say that frequency response is a very large factor in the sound of a device and earphone, and it should be noted that the c5 is extremely flat in that regard...
In terms of frequency response I disagree. I find everything I've ever seen measured from a good source matches what it should sound like perfectly... again, in terms of frequency. If you consider other factors than of course that won't give you the exact sound just by looking at a graph. But you need to be able to differentiate the other traits from the frequency response and describe them accordingly. I can't speak for every graph maker, as some try to "compensate" certain things, but I do believe an amp can have the same FR curve and sound different. However, I would be able to tell the FR is the same. Just like my ipod to my c5. They don't sound the same. But if you had asked me I would say the FR is identical. But there are differences that can give the impression of a different FR if you don't know what to listen for, such as spaciousness. Some people might attribute that to more treble, because that usually "clears things up". However, more treble comes with side effects, whereas spaciousness is a different thing all together.
If you take into account all of the phase shift, distortion, etc., that would all detract from clarity. Softer details are usually described as warm, so that would make sense if the e11 sounded warmer than the C5, as it is a more clear, crisper amp. But that doesn't mean the treble is necessarily less in amplitude than the c5, thereby have a similar curve. Also, solid state amplifiers are not always flat nowadays.
A lot of them have noticeable bass rolloff at the lowest end. Some have very high rolloff as well. But in general they are still very good and the middle areas are usually ruler flat. But anyhow, I think all of these opinions are good and valid. I'm just trying to say that frequency response is a very large factor in the sound of a device and earphone, and it should be noted that the c5 is extremely flat in that regard...
