[bigshot]

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Originally Posted by yotacowboy /img/forum/go_quote.gif Resale value is not determined solely by the material cost or complexity of a piece of audio equipment.

As I already said, resale value depends on the desirability and usefulness of a product. That's why iPods sell for almost as much used as they do new and cables don't.

See ya
Steve

 

[pabbi1]

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Originally Posted by bigshot /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hmmm... I wonder why they lose so much value on the secondary market? See ya Steve

Very similar to the used musical instrument market - everything seems to be worth 'half' once 'used'... guitars, drums, PA, cables... no difference.

 

[bigshot]

Acoustic guitars don't seem to lose their value. I bought a Larrivee parlor for the same price used as the original owner paid new, and it was a very good price. Sweet little guitar.

See ya
Steve

 

[tomjtx]

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Originally Posted by bigshot /img/forum/go_quote.gif Acoustic guitars don't seem to lose their value. I bought a Larrivee parlor for the same price used as the original owner paid new, and it was a very good price. Sweet little guitar. See ya Steve

Handmade classical concert guitars go up in value, like violins.

The 1,300.00 Thomas Humphrey I bought in 1977 is now worth 8,000.00 to 10,000.00.

I have always sold a classical guitar for more than I paid.
Mass produced guitars can decline modestly from retail.

 

[Audio-Omega]

Did someone mention James Randi's challenge ?

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[tourmaline]

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Originally Posted by tomjtx /img/forum/go_quote.gif Handmade classical concert guitars go up in value, like violins. The 1,300.00 Thomas Humphrey I bought in 1977 is now worth 8,000.00 to 10,000.00. I have always sold a classical guitar for more than I paid. Mass produced guitars can decline modestly from retail.

usually, electronics go down in price fast. Cable prices seem to be more stable but in general custom made cars etc. will go up in price over the years since they are rare and hard to find.

Elektronics are for sale in huge quantities and every year they claim to raise the bar soundwise.

and alot of new stuff is comming out for less then the ols stuff might have cost you.

 

[883dave]

The last set of cables I purchased was 4 to 5 years ago, I bought them used on AudiogoN. The same cables for sale today are within a few dollars either way. One set 7.5% lower, one set 7.7% higher

 

[Scrith]

No it is not time to boycott cable companies.

But it is time to ignore all cable reviews, opinions, and comparisons that are not based on the results of blind testing. That ought to eliminate about 99% of the crap associated with cables and cable manufacturers once and for all.

It would help eliminate all the varied opinions and impressions people have about DACs (which sound much more alike than the manufacturers and owners who overspent would like you to believe) and amps (which don't have to cost a tremendous amount of money to sound good) also, but let us at least begin with cables.

 

[yotacowboy]

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Originally Posted by Scrith /img/forum/go_quote.gif No it is not time to boycott cable companies. But it is time to ignore all cable reviews, opinions, and comparisons that are not based on the results of blind testing. That ought to eliminate about 99% of the crap associated with cables and cable manufacturers once and for all. It would help eliminate all the varied opinions and impressions people have about DACs (which sound much more alike than the manufacturers and owners who overspent would like you to believe) and amps (which don't have to cost a tremendous amount of money to sound good) also, but let us at least begin with cables.

I agree, ignorance is the way to go. I'm going to get up, and ignore my stereo right now.

 

[bigshot]

That's a good idea. There's no reason to listen to your stereo because either there is something wrong with your hearing, or your equipment sucks.

See ya
Steve

 

[Scrith]

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Originally Posted by yotacowboy /img/forum/go_quote.gif I agree, ignorance is the way to go. I'm going to get up, and ignore my stereo right now.

Huh? Why would you want to ignore your stereo? And what makes you think ignorance is the way to go? It sounds like you are confused about what I was proposing, which was a pretty simple thing: opinions and claims about cables (and, perhaps, other stereo components) that aren't based on blind testing are completely worthless. If you adhered to this basic principle, it wouldn't matter how much cable companies are charging for their products, because you wouldn't be buying them unless it could be objectively determined that they actually sound better than a much less expensive alternative.

 

[yotacowboy]

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Originally Posted by Scrith /img/forum/go_quote.gif Huh? Why would you want to ignore your stereo? And what makes you think ignorance is the way to go? It sounds like you are confused about what I was proposing, which was a pretty simple thing: opinions and claims about cables (and, perhaps, other stereo components) that aren't based on blind testing are completely worthless. If you adhered to this basic principle, it wouldn't matter how much cable companies are charging for their products, because you wouldn't be buying them unless it could be objectively determined that they actually sound better than a much less expensive alternative.

Your post suggests that we should ignore everything (especially opinions) that hasn't been blind tested, correct?

Well, none of the components in my rig have been blind tested (to my knowledge). So in keeping with rigorous ignorance, I attempted to ignore my own unverified opinion that "I enjoy how music sounds while playing thru my stereo".

 

[yotacowboy]

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Originally Posted by bigshot /img/forum/go_quote.gif That's a good idea. There's no reason to listen to your stereo because either there is something wrong with your hearing, or your equipment sucks. See ya Steve

I suppose I could fix both of those problems with some liberal EQ'ing, right?

 

[jilgiljongiljing]

Poke both your eyes out ppl, then you would be blind testing all your equipment all the time!

Cheers

 

[terriblepaulz]

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Originally Posted by bigshot /img/forum/go_quote.gif That's a good idea. There's no reason to listen to your stereo because either there is something wrong with your hearing, or your equipment sucks. See ya Steve

PWNED!

Seriously Yota, I don't see how you can hear any difference between cables with your mom yelling at you down the basement stairs.