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Is Hifiman HM-801 an overkill if I only have CD quality FLACs???

Aug 9, 2011 at 8:57 AM Post #61 of 88


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davebsc said:
I can report that the 801 is surprisingly decent as a desktop DAC, provided you use the coaxial digital input. The sound over USB stinks, and that should only be used for something like podcasts from a laptop where quality doesn't matter.
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icic. I am thinking about hooking it up with a PS3 also. Can I buy an optical to coaxia adapter to make it work???
 
 
Aug 9, 2011 at 9:00 AM Post #62 of 88
What's your music style umvue? Ie. what genres do you listen to?
 
Also to note, anyone comparing the 801 with IEM's (such as El Doug), its important to list what Amp (Gan-qi) bay was used in the testing. The original standard amp (or any non GAME amp) has 18ohm output impedence which is not good for low ohm, high sensitivity drivers like IEM's.  The GAME is much better suited for IEMs and will match up better with IEM's.
 
Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM Post #64 of 88


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bojamijams said:
What's your music style umvue? Ie. what genres do you listen to?
 
Also to note, anyone comparing the 801 with IEM's (such as El Doug), its important to list what Amp (Gan-qi) bay was used in the testing. The original standard amp (or any non GAME amp) has 18ohm output impedence which is not good for low ohm, high sensitivity drivers like IEM's.  The GAME is much better suited for IEMs and will match up better with IEM's.
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Mostly pop. But Since I plan to hook it up with a ps3, so i will also listen to game music and watch some Blue Ray movies.

Thanks for your suggestion of the GAME module. What about the new balanced module? Does it work very well with their RE272 also???
 
 
Aug 9, 2011 at 9:55 AM Post #65 of 88


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bojamijams said:
There's no small adapter that can do that.  The smallest I found is http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Optical-Toslink-Coaxial-Converter/dp/B000I98ZQY
 


 
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Yea. This is what I find. It seems to need a power adapter???
 
Another alternative for me will be to buy a receiver. But the 801 seems to be a decent small footprint alternative that is also semi-portable, so I am looking at it, too.
 
Aug 9, 2011 at 10:39 AM Post #66 of 88

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umvue said:
icic. I am thinking about hooking it up with a PS3 also. Can I buy an optical to coaxia adapter to make it work???
 
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There are some variants on eBay too, if you search around.

 
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umvue said:
What about the new balanced module? Does it work very well with their RE272 also??  
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They sound great together. You can say RE272 is developed with the balanced module in mind.
 
 
 
Aug 9, 2011 at 10:52 AM Post #67 of 88
Honestly, POP music in general doesn't have the fidelity in its mastering process (and it uses digital compression in liberate amounts) which doesn't translate well to analytical equipment. 
 
The movies could sound better except
 
a) It only passes stereo, so you won't get 5.1 or higher sound
b) it doesn't decode Dolby or DTS or anyhting like that, so you won't be able to take advantage of that either
 
In summary, yes I think 801 is overkill for you.
 
Aug 9, 2011 at 11:10 AM Post #69 of 88


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bojamijams said:
Honestly, POP music in general doesn't have the fidelity in its mastering process (and it uses digital compression in liberate amounts) which doesn't translate well to analytical equipment. 
 
The movies could sound better except
 
a) It only passes stereo, so you won't get 5.1 or higher sound
b) it doesn't decode Dolby or DTS or anyhting like that, so you won't be able to take advantage of that either
 
In summary, yes I think 801 is overkill for you.
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So what type of music do hi-fi people listen to???
 
I also listen to classic music occasionally. But I find my Naxos CDs has only one third the bit rate of my pop CDs when I was ripping flacs from them. I also feel that my Naxos CDs are nowhere as detailed as my pop CDs when I was listening to them.
 
 
Aug 9, 2011 at 11:16 AM Post #70 of 88
Stuff that translates really well to HiFi (specifically analytical equipment) is Classical, jazz, blues and any acoustic/non amplified music. 
 
No experience with Naxos but a lot of classical music is available in 24bit/96khz (or 88.1khz or 192khz) which would sound really good on the 801.
 
Aug 9, 2011 at 11:38 AM Post #71 of 88


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bojamijams said:
Stuff that translates really well to HiFi (specifically analytical equipment) is Classical, jazz, blues and any acoustic/non amplified music. 
 
No experience with Naxos but a lot of classical music is available in 24bit/96khz (or 88.1khz or 192khz) which would sound really good on the 801.
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What brand of classic CDs do you recommend???
 
Aug 9, 2011 at 11:54 AM Post #72 of 88
I'm sorry, I'm not the best person to ask this.  The classical that I listen are downloaded FLACs which some are 16bit/44khz and some are 24bit/96khz, but I do not own the original CD's.  I can tell you that the 16bit/44khz all has a bitrate of around 1000, not sure what the bitrate is on the ones you have which you said are significantly less then your pop cd's.
 
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umvue said:
What brand of classic CDs do you recommend???
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Aug 9, 2011 at 12:04 PM Post #73 of 88


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bojamijams said:
I'm sorry, I'm not the best person to ask this.  The classical that I listen are downloaded FLACs which some are 16bit/44khz and some are 24bit/96khz, but I do not own the original CD's.  I can tell you that the 16bit/44khz all has a bitrate of around 1000, not sure what the bitrate is on the ones you have which you said are significantly less then your pop cd's.
 


 
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My pop CDs have about 1000k bitrate but my Naxos and Denon classic CDs are only around 300-500k. But then the former costs $20 but the later is only around $3.
 
 
 
 
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