chumley
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I own and use the Karma, iRiver, 3G iPod and the 4G iPod. The 4G iPod's L/O beats the sound quality for the other 3, IMO. As someone who's worked with audio professionally for decades, I get paid to know the difference. I like the Karma and the iRiver for what they offer that the iPods don't; it's just not equal sound quality that I'm after when I use the Karma and the iRiver. Two fine products; I'd buy them again, but L/O from 4G iPods, given equal source quality, is superior. In my line of work, I almost never see sound engineers, musicians, DJs, etc., using anything but iPods for personal and/or professional use, whether they own Macs or not. Some, I'm sure, use and own iPods for reasons other than the iPod's superior sound quality, some probably own iPods because Apple makes 'em; the vast majority of those in my business who own iPods fall into two categories: artistic fit/sound an UI; sound, sound, sound. Predictably, musicians/DJs go for the latter, but in all the conversations I've had with folks who use portable audio, whether personally, professionally, or both, those who are using iPods want to stay with them, despite what they have long known to be its shortcomings, because they need/want the relatively 'flat', uncolored sound quality. Those who don't use iPods are planning on obtaining one. The iPod's marketing blitz will take its sales a LOT farther with Joe Consumer than it can with most of the folks with whom I work; folks who tend to be preternaturally focussed on getting the best sound they can. Many, in fact, are annoyed they've got to go to Apple for the iPod- they can't stand the company, but use their iPods 24/7.
Also, I doubt that owning and using a product makes its quality relative to other products any 'better', just because you happen to own it.
Marketing has never had anything to do with actual quality, with any product.
You may be convinced that iRiver and Karma offer better sound, but that's a point you'll argue going uphill. Steeply uphill.
| Originally Posted by widds2v Speaking from an Ipod Mini vs iRiver iHP120 standpoint, the iriver has better soundquality, & more "in-depth" settings that you can control. Build quality is almost a draw... the ipod mini is a work of art with the solid aluminum body, but the iriver isnt cheaply made by any means, it is solid as a rock. The iriver is obviously heavier, the mini has an easier to use interface for selecting songs, but the iriver interface is a bit better when you get used to it. ipod undisputed? Marketing is the big reason why people think it's #1. And pre-gen4, they were barely worth their $$ compared to other players. |
I own and use the Karma, iRiver, 3G iPod and the 4G iPod. The 4G iPod's L/O beats the sound quality for the other 3, IMO. As someone who's worked with audio professionally for decades, I get paid to know the difference. I like the Karma and the iRiver for what they offer that the iPods don't; it's just not equal sound quality that I'm after when I use the Karma and the iRiver. Two fine products; I'd buy them again, but L/O from 4G iPods, given equal source quality, is superior. In my line of work, I almost never see sound engineers, musicians, DJs, etc., using anything but iPods for personal and/or professional use, whether they own Macs or not. Some, I'm sure, use and own iPods for reasons other than the iPod's superior sound quality, some probably own iPods because Apple makes 'em; the vast majority of those in my business who own iPods fall into two categories: artistic fit/sound an UI; sound, sound, sound. Predictably, musicians/DJs go for the latter, but in all the conversations I've had with folks who use portable audio, whether personally, professionally, or both, those who are using iPods want to stay with them, despite what they have long known to be its shortcomings, because they need/want the relatively 'flat', uncolored sound quality. Those who don't use iPods are planning on obtaining one. The iPod's marketing blitz will take its sales a LOT farther with Joe Consumer than it can with most of the folks with whom I work; folks who tend to be preternaturally focussed on getting the best sound they can. Many, in fact, are annoyed they've got to go to Apple for the iPod- they can't stand the company, but use their iPods 24/7.
Also, I doubt that owning and using a product makes its quality relative to other products any 'better', just because you happen to own it.
Marketing has never had anything to do with actual quality, with any product.
You may be convinced that iRiver and Karma offer better sound, but that's a point you'll argue going uphill. Steeply uphill.
