Initial listening of "gapless" playback on iPod 5G

[doctorjuggles]

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Originally Posted by wanderman the gapless playback in itunes 7 seems the be based on the crossfading feature. I am not sure it is true gapless but I will verify it when I get back to my room. The library is not a safe place. I think it is based on that because when I toggled the crossfading option it stopped scanning my files for gapless. I think itunes is figuring the length and adding crossfade for the right amount. I don't own an Ipod and this is my first itunes install. Itunes is a pretty prog but 700% more memory usage then foobar is crazy. WMP11 even uses less memory then itunes. will verify gapless(more like crossfade I speculate) tonight. The price for the 80gb makes me want to buy and ipod. But my iriver will still stay close to my side.

It's gapless, not crossfade. I know the difference. I don't use iTunes because it crossfades, I prefer Foobar2000 instead.
I was one of the losers that signed the "Give Us Gapless" petition 3 or 4 years ago, so I'll be as critical of anyone. Crossfade sticks out like a sore thumb on DJ mixes, which is hasn't done on any of the 10-15 albums I've tried so far.

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Originally Posted by rayson Anybody know if it's true that gapless playback only works on 5G & 5.5G IPods?

Apparently, yes, it's only for the 5G iPods. That's what's being reported in iLounge, anyway. I can't test it though, as I don't have a 3G/4G iPod to try it out on.

 

[pennylane]

I think my iPod didn't really update also. I will try that fix first.

 

[wanderman]

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Originally Posted by doctorjuggles It's gapless, not crossfade. I know the difference. I don't use iTunes because it crossfades, I prefer Foobar2000 instead. I was one of the losers that signed the "Give Us Gapless" petition 3 or 4 years ago, so I'll be as critical of anyone. Crossfade sticks out like a sore thumb on DJ mixes, which is hasn't done on any of the 10-15 albums I've tried so far.

yeah it is gapless I just checked. Just walked back. itunes is still huge. I use foobar 2000 also. It is smaller and more powerful. I need to borrow the ipods my friends own and do some tests.

I won't hear the end of it if I purchase an Ipod from friends... but the 80gb is just soo cool imo.

 

[vranswer]

Mine has small gaps!!! What gives??

 

[blessingx]

Can we verify what encoder/codec everyone is using? I know it's suppose to work at least with MP3, AAC and ALAC (and hopefully WAV/AIFF). I tested (in iTunes) with a few Lips Yoshimi tracks with AAC (QT/iTunes) and they're gapless. Not sure I have any LAME MP3 tracks with seamless transitions to test.

 

[pds6]

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Mine has small gaps!!! What gives??

The will of God. May be its time you started thinking about going back to church on a regular basis.

If that's not it. Play around with it for awhile. If that don't work, download and reinstall.

I can tell you that at best, I can hear the smallest of artifacts (a few notes skipped, slight rise in volume or a song suddenly starts full-out). Even with these artifacts, there are NO gap (I assume a gap means silence of some sort).

As noted in other threads, I believe the artifacts were in the original recordings. I have listened to a number of albums (mostly live) that are perfect - no gaps and nothing is missing.

iTunes isn't installed properly or it is your recording.

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I hope we are not talking past one another.

I have a number of live albums. The hardest thing to do is to match someone talking from on track to another. With music you can blend the notes. With the human voice blending is much harder. I have a number of recording that has a person talking at the end of one song and into the other. It is perfect in every way.

I have other songs that are recorded with silence at the end of the song. The silence is a part of the recording. Are you saying that to be "gapless", there should be no silence on a song that is recorded with silence as part of the recording?

 

[Spaceage]

I browsed a bit on a different board and I got the impression that the player needed some time to load the next song into memory in order to get true gapless results. If you fast forward to 5 seconds before the track ends and then hit play, the player won't have enough time to prepare the gap. If you listen to the tracks normally, it will. They also speculated that the higher the bitrate, the more time it would take to prepare for the gap.

I can't test this as I have an older iPod, but it sounds pretty reasonable.

 

[vranswer]

Those reporting no gaps, did you do a restore?

 

[Solitary1]

Gapless is working fine for me on a few of my live shows transferred from DAT (5G iPod Video). Now, my problem is iTunes 7 is significantly SLOWER on my Duo Core mini w/ 2g RAM. I'm one of those Mac guys with the huge 44k song library, but it was not a problem with 6.0.5. Anyone else notice a slowdown?

 

[pds6]

Solitary1 says:

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my problem is iTunes 7 is significantly SLOWER on my Duo Core mini w/ 2g RAM

I am running a 17 inch 1GHz Powerbook with 1 gig of memory. My machine is much slower than yours.

It is slower on my machine, but the only dramatic slowness is in the album art.

Have you updated to Quicktime 7.1.3. Reports of slowness have been made, check: http://www.macfixit.com/

 

[Solitary1]

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Originally Posted by pds6 Have you updated to Quicktime 7.1.3. Reports of slowness have been made, check: http://www.macfixit.com/

Yes, I have. Did all of the updates at once via Software Update. I'll check macfixit and see what they're talking about. Thanks for the tip.

 

[stevesurf]

1. I have a 5G
2. Upgraded to iTunes7
3. iTunes performed the gapless playback analysis
4. I updated iPod F/W
5. I updated iPod
6. Gapless played fine

 

[mnhnhyouh]

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Originally Posted by vranswer Hmm. Probably topic for a new thread, but Sigmatel chip is in the Shuffle, and known for much better bass and less-veiled sound of all the iPods. We'll need some reporting on that.

Documentation on some iPod (and other DAP) hardware here...

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DeviceChart

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[kugino]

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Originally Posted by stevesurf 1. I have a 5G 2. Upgraded to iTunes7 3. iTunes performed the gapless playback analysis 4. I updated iPod F/W 5. I updated iPod 6. Gapless played fine

nice!

 

[cmirza]

Does iTunes append the mp3s with 'gapless' data or does it keep that info external from the mp3s. I keep SFV checksums for all my mp3 albums and don't want iTunes 7 'corrupting' all my mp3s.