[GraveNoX]

After the black label release, the old micro will be discontinued ? If not, the old micro will be sold at same price or at a lower price ? It's gonna be available worldwide like the old micro ?

 

[Topspin70]

Yes, I'm interested to know the pricing of this new unit too. Wonder if it will be a jump like the iCan to iCan SE. 

 

[Cotnijoe]

  Yes, I'm interested to know the pricing of this new unit too. Wonder if it will be a jump like the iCan to iCan SE. 

 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/711217/idsd-micro-black-label-tour-details-page-147/2205#post_13008588

 

[balcy24]

My portable rig has developed a problem. I am using an iDSD Micro connected to my iPhone 6 Plus with the CCK and using JRemote. Sometimes mid track, other times when a song starts, there is a noticeable "jitter" noise and the music tempo slows way down like there is a problem with the data flow. I have tried turning off the iDSD and unplugging the CCK and eventually it goes back to normal. The last time I got an error message that the device is using too much power (pretty common with the CCK from what I have read). I do make sure the iDSD is turned on first and have the latest firmware B installed.  
 
I am thinking the CCK could be the issue. Any ideas?. .

 

[Topspin70]

   
http://www.head-fi.org/t/711217/idsd-micro-black-label-tour-details-page-147/2205#post_13008588

 
Thanks. High but not too high. I think it's quite likely to over-shadow the old model completely. 

 

[Sonic Defender]

   
Thanks. High but not too high. I think it's quite likely to over-shadow the old model completely. 

I agree, the new price sounds perfectly acceptable given the changes. I would certainly be happy to pay the small premium simply for the new look and if the changes turn out to be audible and better, well that just makes the 10% a very well spent 10%.

 

[stevenyu2000]

Good to know that upgrade version of iDSD mirco was coming.

 

[chillaxing]

Team iFi, is there a chart of the xbass on the new version?  Would like to know the peak and see how the slope is before even thinking of replacing the old one.

 

[Tomasz2D]

  My portable rig has developed a problem. I am using an iDSD Micro connected to my iPhone 6 Plus with the CCK and using JRemote. Sometimes mid track, other times when a song starts, there is a noticeable "jitter" noise and the music tempo slows way down like there is a problem with the data flow.

It happens from time to time with my iPad mini (Tidal streaming) via CCK with various DACs. I just need to re-plug USB cable and it is back to normal.

 

[iFi audio]

  My portable rig has developed a problem. I am using an iDSD Micro connected to my iPhone 6 Plus with the CCK and using JRemote. Sometimes mid track, other times when a song starts, there is a noticeable "jitter" noise and the music tempo slows way down like there is a problem with the data flow. I have tried turning off the iDSD and unplugging the CCK and eventually it goes back to normal. The last time I got an error message that the device is using too much power (pretty common with the CCK from what I have read). I do make sure the iDSD is turned on first and have the latest firmware B installed.  
 
I am thinking the CCK could be the issue. Any ideas?. .

 
1. Please open our STS for more detailed tech support: http://support.ifi-audio.com
 
2. From afar, best to reboot the App (try other Apps). Then try to swap out the CCK or micro iDSD. We don't think it is the micro iDSD because it should work or not work if it is the cause.

 

[Dadracer]

 

  I personally like the fact that ifi keeps giving us better upgraded models of their products. I would love to hear this new version of the micro and why not, buy it of course!
 
Thats the beauty of this market, you can allways find something new to play with! Either way the micro is so good that it will last many years before its considered as ''yesterdays news'' I think!
 
Cheers! 

Absolutely, the new model is for new owners, or existing Micro owners who want to buy the updated model. My only point in posting is to suggest that newer doesn't mean better always, and that those who already own the existing Micro (which I did and I loved it by the way) shouldn't have any illusions that these changes are going to suddenly reveal all this missing information that their existing Micro is unable to reveal. If there are audible differences they will be quite subtle almost for sure, unless iFi really tuned this BL differently. Now, that said, the effects circuitry that most people found only made a modest difference at best on the current Micro may be greatly improved, but for me, those enhancements were never important or core to the Micro anyway. If I wanted more bass, I can simply do so with an EQ so I typically have little use for bass boosting circuitry built into devices anyway, but I do realize that many people do like and use them and I'm not trying to suggest my views are more valid.

On balance I'd have to say I don't feel that ifi Audio appear to be the kind of company to change or upgrade a model unless it is a worthwhile change. You may be correct that the sonic differences are subtle, but then again I'd respectfully suggest that isn't something you can judge without listening. 

 

[iFi audio]

Part 3. Exceptional parts quality (cont’d)

iFi/AMR ‘OV’ series stands for ‘Operationsverstärker’ (German for Operational Amplifier). iFi/AMR’s ‘OV’ range IC's use HCOFC copper lead-frames and 4N Gold bond-wire which is streets ahead of mainstream commercial chips that use inexpensive aluminum bond-wire and low-grade and low-cost copper in the lead-frames.



It is seldom found because it requires custom packaging of chips from wafers and has a very high MOQ (30,000 pcs per part and purchase) to do. Therefore, the parts used in the micro iDSD BL are ‘above and beyond.’

 
Specifically the iFi OV2028 is a BJT input Dual OV with extremely low-noise, wide bandwidth and high slew rate. 

The iFi OV2627 is an FET input Dual OV with low noise, extremely wide bandwidth and very high slew rate.

For further reading:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operationsverst%C3%A4rker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_amplifier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_bonding
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_frame

 

[Sonic Defender]

  On balance I'd have to say I don't feel that ifi Audio appear to be the kind of company to change or upgrade a model unless it is a worthwhile change. You may be correct that the sonic differences are subtle, but then again I'd respectfully suggest that isn't something you can judge without listening. 

Absolutely, I agree, some blind, multiple trial listening tests are a great idea. I would be shocked if the differences aren't rather subtle, but that said, first I could easily be wrong, but more importantly, I think the small price difference that iFi is bringing into effect is extremely reasonable given the attention to detail they are going through so it is really a moot point. I would without hesitation happily by the new version as compared against the previous iteration, but I would not expect it to sound "better", perhaps different. All of these differences are in the domain of sensitive measuring equipment which does not guarantee audibility in real life listening. I have been making that point not because I don't think it is fantastic that iFi wants to improve their offerings, but already we have existing Micro owners wondering if this new version will trump theirs in performance simply because some measures have shifted, and in a relative way these are likely modest shifts. The fact that they are modest shifts (in terms of audibility) are a testament to just how good the previous Micro really sounded.
 
Anyway, I'm likely to purchase one of the new version myself so I'm not knocking it at all.

 

[Whitigir]

The one thing I do not understand though ...why dual mono DAC stage and dual amplification stage but in the end only offer Sungle ended connection and not even a balanced out

 

[Topspin70]

The one thing I do not understand though ...why dual mono DAC stage and dual amplification stage but in the end only offer Sungle ended connection and not even a balanced out

 
Perhaps to keep a safe distance from the pro range, to avoid cannibalising their flag ship in terms of performance?