iFi Audio Pro iDSD discussion thread
Nov 16, 2019 at 2:04 AM Post #2,311 of 3,458
@iFi audio time to get into using the wifi capabilities of ifi idsd pro

This is the first time I will use wifi streaming, is there a detailed guide to set up wifi streaming using a laptop windows -- idsd pro-- qobuz and audrivana that I can follow.

update 1: I give up and would appreciate a detailed guide on how to use the wifi streaming capabilities using a windows laptop, I got my iphone to work with muzo app but i need my laptop to be the one that streams over wifi to idsd pro as that is one of the main selling points i bout the ifi idsd pro, but there is no detailed guide to do that , kindly please help

My goal is stream audrivana and qobuz to ifi idsd pro over wifi without any cables

Also I would like to ask which is better to choose ASIO or Wasapi exclusive mode in qobuz

also if anyone cam share their favorite settings when using ifi idsd pro as a dac with ifi ican pro , what filter u prefer and which mode tube or ss, thanks

now here is an observation, I am connecting both ifi idsd pro and chord hugo2 as dacs only to my ifi ican pro using same usb cables from supra, same rca cables and i noticed the volume output of hugo2 is higher than the ifi idsd pro so i have to turn up the volume on ifi ican pro when i use the ifi idsd pro as a dac compared to hugo2 to volume match on my ifi ican pro, i did not expect this to happen

then i tired connect xlr balanced cables from ifi idsd pro to ifi ican pro using but the volume did not change going that route, and not a big difference using xlr cables than rca from ifi dsd pro to ifi ican pro, that also was not expected I thought if I go fully balanced it will be better than using rca from idsd pro to ifi ican pro. I see that hugo2 has 3v rms output, while the ifi idsd pro has only 2.3v from rca in hifi fixed, i thing i should try pro fixed to get 5v output from the rca, i think my ifi ican pro can tolerate 5v output from the ifi ican idsd pro.

update 2: for tonight i switched to fixed pro, man as if the ifi idsd pro as a dac came to live, and now we are talking, my advise is use fixed pro as this changes everything for the ifi dsd pro, it literally made the ifi idsd pro as a dac come to live instead of using the fixed hifi. Of course assuming ur amp can take in 5v and I am sure my ifi ican pro is designed to take in such input. Now the the hugo2 sounds less full and thinner and lower volume than my ifi idsd pro and everything sounds perfect. Changing to 5v made things sound fuller and more bodied, to be honest the hif fixed was not better than my hugo2 but now with the fixed pro the ifi idsd is demonstrating what it can do and sounds way better than my hugo2. My current settings are Tube+, GTO filter, no up sampling, using fixed pro -- RCA-- to my ifi ican pro. On my ifi ican pro I am on mid gain, and using my He1000SE balanced. What a dam combo to listen to I never heard my Hifiman HE1000SE sound like this so full bodied and organic sounding. If you have a great amp that can take in 5V you must try fixed pro in my opinion

Update 3; Here comes the 3rd update, well although I liked setting the ifi idsd pro to fixed pro, but I was a bit worried its an overkill into my ifi ican pro amp, and I oped to use the PRO VARIABLE setting in the idsd pro, so that now the ifi idsd pro works as a preamp into my ifi ican pro and I, setting the volume to 70% on the ifi idsd pro so i get more than 2.3 volts output from ifi idsd and then using the volume on ifi ican pro, I definitely dig this setting, somehow things sound smoother this way, full bodied and amazing. I think I will keep this setting. Also I am now using bit perfect + and on solid state on idsd pro. I think the sound stage is bigger using solid state than any tube settings.


all my tests are with Hifiman HE1000SE using a balanced cable

Finally @iFi audio back to why I posted is I really need your help in getting the wifi streaming to work from my windows laptop, please provide a detailed guide
 
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Nov 17, 2019 at 5:59 PM Post #2,313 of 3,458
@iFi audio time to get into using the wifi capabilities of ifi idsd pro

This is the first time I will use wifi streaming, is there a detailed guide to set up wifi streaming using a laptop windows -- idsd pro-- qobuz and audrivana that I can follow.

update 1: I give up and would appreciate a detailed guide on how to use the wifi streaming capabilities using a windows laptop, I got my iphone to work with muzo app but i need my laptop to be the one that streams over wifi to idsd pro as that is one of the main selling points i bout the ifi idsd pro, but there is no detailed guide to do that , kindly please help

My goal is stream audrivana and qobuz to ifi idsd pro over wifi without any cables

Also I would like to ask which is better to choose ASIO or Wasapi exclusive mode in qobuz

also if anyone cam share their favorite settings when using ifi idsd pro as a dac with ifi ican pro , what filter u prefer and which mode tube or ss, thanks

now here is an observation, I am connecting both ifi idsd pro and chord hugo2 as dacs only to my ifi ican pro using same usb cables from supra, same rca cables and i noticed the volume output of hugo2 is higher than the ifi idsd pro so i have to turn up the volume on ifi ican pro when i use the ifi idsd pro as a dac compared to hugo2 to volume match on my ifi ican pro, i did not expect this to happen

then i tired connect xlr balanced cables from ifi idsd pro to ifi ican pro using but the volume did not change going that route, and not a big difference using xlr cables than rca from ifi dsd pro to ifi ican pro, that also was not expected I thought if I go fully balanced it will be better than using rca from idsd pro to ifi ican pro. I see that hugo2 has 3v rms output, while the ifi idsd pro has only 2.3v from rca in hifi fixed, i thing i should try pro fixed to get 5v output from the rca, i think my ifi ican pro can tolerate 5v output from the ifi ican idsd pro.

update 2: for tonight i switched to fixed pro, man as if the ifi idsd pro as a dac came to live, and now we are talking, my advise is use fixed pro as this changes everything for the ifi dsd pro, it literally made the ifi idsd pro as a dac come to live instead of using the fixed hifi. Of course assuming ur amp can take in 5v and I am sure my ifi ican pro is designed to take in such input. Now the the hugo2 sounds less full and thinner and lower volume than my ifi idsd pro and everything sounds perfect. Changing to 5v made things sound fuller and more bodied, to be honest the hif fixed was not better than my hugo2 but now with the fixed pro the ifi idsd is demonstrating what it can do and sounds way better than my hugo2. My current settings are Tube+, GTO filter, no up sampling, using fixed pro -- RCA-- to my ifi ican pro. On my ifi ican pro I am on mid gain, and using my He1000SE balanced. What a dam combo to listen to I never heard my Hifiman HE1000SE sound like this so full bodied and organic sounding. If you have a great amp that can take in 5V you must try fixed pro in my opinion

Update 3; Here comes the 3rd update, well although I liked setting the ifi idsd pro to fixed pro, but I was a bit worried its an overkill into my ifi ican pro amp, and I oped to use the PRO VARIABLE setting in the idsd pro, so that now the ifi idsd pro works as a preamp into my ifi ican pro and I, setting the volume to 70% on the ifi idsd pro so i get more than 2.3 volts output from ifi idsd and then using the volume on ifi ican pro, I definitely dig this setting, somehow things sound smoother this way, full bodied and amazing. I think I will keep this setting. Also I am now using bit perfect + and on solid state on idsd pro. I think the sound stage is bigger using solid state than any tube settings.


all my tests are with Hifiman HE1000SE using a balanced cable

Finally @iFi audio back to why I posted is I really need your help in getting the wifi streaming to work from my windows laptop, please provide a detailed guide

Please see this post and some links in there to useful things: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/ifi-audio-pro-idsd-official-new-firmware-mqa-and-more.869144/
 
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Nov 19, 2019 at 2:24 PM Post #2,315 of 3,458
ok i need bit help from people who used this dac for some time

which setting gives the most musical warm setting when i connect the ifi dsd pro to ifi ican pro, and to achieve that where should i engage the tubes on the dac or amp, and what filter settings should i dial in

and in qobus which driver should i choose waspi or asio
 
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Nov 19, 2019 at 2:45 PM Post #2,316 of 3,458
ok i need bit help from people who used this dac for some time

which setting gives the most musical warm setting when i connect the ifi dsd pro to ifi ican pro, and to achieve that where should i engage the tubes on the dac or amp, and what filter settings should i dial in

and in qobus which driver should i choose waspi or asio
BP + 2x Tube mode give you most musiacal and warm sound.
 
Nov 20, 2019 at 2:02 AM Post #2,318 of 3,458
BP + 2x Tube mode give you most musiacal and warm sound.
thanks for the answer

you mean BP+ or BP
2x tube you mean engage tube ( not tube+ ) on both amp and dac
 
Nov 20, 2019 at 5:49 PM Post #2,319 of 3,458
you mean BP+ or BP
2x tube you mean engage tube ( not tube+ ) on both amp and dac

Our advice for you would be to try these options for yourself and see what works for you the best. But in general, tube options in our Pro range give warm sound, yes.
 
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Nov 21, 2019 at 5:17 PM Post #2,320 of 3,458
My Pro IDSD has about 80h playtime and its even better, with my Pro ICAN with WE396A tubes is pure dead end-game, gorgeous sound.
Thank's to IFI for make such great stuff, brilliant job!
 
Nov 21, 2019 at 9:53 PM Post #2,321 of 3,458
My Pro IDSD has about 80h playtime and its even better, with my Pro ICAN with WE396A tubes is pure dead end-game, gorgeous sound.
Thank's to IFI for make such great stuff, brilliant job!
If you check out https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/reviews/my-quest-for-a-new-dac-part-4-ifi-pro-idsd-and-friends-r748/, you may find a yellow brick road beyond the dead end-game. What they used in the article are outside my budget. But I use a gpsdo ocxo that I got from alixexpress as an external master clock and a Zerozone Leo linear psu. Takes me to another level with the Pro iDSD.
 
Nov 21, 2019 at 10:43 PM Post #2,322 of 3,458
I will be tested very good linear PSU soon, i got USB card with TXCO clock and very good USB converter + great digital and analog cables.
 
Nov 22, 2019 at 2:17 AM Post #2,323 of 3,458
Nov 22, 2019 at 3:09 AM Post #2,324 of 3,458
can you link the ocxo?

AU $482.55 5%OFF | High stability accuracy GPSDO GNSS Disciplined Oscillator Frequency Standard
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/CKTd1cZa

You need a male bnc to male sma connector as well. Spec is more accurate than atomic clock. For gps, the dac needs to be under 3m to a window so you get reception.
 

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