iFi Audio Nano iDSD discussion + impression
May 10, 2014 at 8:52 PM Post #466 of 2,063
  I got the iDSD nano two days ago and it does not work on the USB 3.0 ports of my Dell Inspiron 3521 laptop!
Fortunatelly the coputer has USB 2.0 ports also, so I can use the DAC.. Do I need to update the firmaware to the beta or I can wait untill it is released? 
Does it give better sound???
 
Thnx in advance!!!
 
I guess that the firmware won't affect the synergy with Mac's.? I have a late 2009 mac mini (USB 2.0 only)... May be silly question but... : ) :)

i don't think usb 3.0 will give you better sound than usb 2.0. those who are using the beta firmware update probably only have usb 3.0 and their units don't work at all. if you don't have to update the firmware, i wouldn't. 
 
May 11, 2014 at 5:11 PM Post #467 of 2,063
Question:
Can the iDSD Nano play true (non DoP) DSD using the foobar2000 with foo_input_sacd-0.7.1 component????
If yes is there a link with the proper settings?
 
If no why ifi claims NATIVE DSD??
 
May 11, 2014 at 9:34 PM Post #469 of 2,063
  Question:
Can the iDSD Nano play true (non DoP) DSD using the foobar2000 with foo_input_sacd-0.7.1 component????
If yes is there a link with the proper settings?
 
If no why ifi claims NATIVE DSD??

 
Why would DoP not be considered native? There is NO conversion to PCM.

 
+1 There is no PCM conversion. DoP is just a scheme for getting DSD format data through the USB Audio 2.0 protocol. 
 
May 12, 2014 at 11:40 AM Post #470 of 2,063
  Question:
Can the iDSD Nano play true (non DoP) DSD using the foobar2000 with foo_input_sacd-0.7.1 component????
If yes is there a link with the proper settings?
 
If no why ifi claims NATIVE DSD??

Hi,
 
Just to clarify, 
 
First, "native DSD" refers to leaving the DSD datastream original (native) without applying digital processing inside the DAC Chip, not with regards to support for ASIO 2.2.
 
Second, the upcoming firmware update will add ASIO 2.2 support.
 
If you wish to read about what we think of PCM and DSD chipsets, then read the AudioStream interview and Appendix. It goes into quite some detail. This is why we say "True Native."
 
thanks
 
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May 12, 2014 at 6:31 PM Post #471 of 2,063
  Hi,
 
Just to clarify, 
 
First, "native DSD" refers to leaving the DSD datastream original (native) without applying digital processing inside the DAC Chip, not with regards to support for ASIO 2.2.
 
Second, the upcoming firmware update will add ASIO 2.2 support.
 
If you wish to read about what we think of PCM and DSD chipsets, then read the AudioStream interview and Appendix. It goes into quite some detail. This is why we say "True Native."
 
thanks

Thank you very much for your answer!!!!!!!!!
I admit I didn't read the interview yet!
 
May 12, 2014 at 9:42 PM Post #473 of 2,063
  You should have got a little 'card' in the box. It folds out and has all the colors and what they mean.
 
One other thing I found out - the internal battery needs some good amps to charge fully and in a reasonable length of time. I use my Sony 10AH CycleEnergy battery to charge it. I outputs up to 3.6 amps at 5V.

 
Thanks a lot!  I hadn't noticed that on the card before.
 
Thanks again
 
May 13, 2014 at 11:50 AM Post #474 of 2,063

For all nano iDSD owners:

Quad-Speed DSD256 for iDSD


 
 
Quantum leap to Quad-Speed DSD 256 on nano iDSD
Not to rest on our laurels, iFi is absolutely over the moon to announce that with the latest firmware update, the nano iDSD is now capable of True Native Quad-Speed DSD256 playback at 11.2MHz/12.4MHz.  The nano iDSD is already the #1 seller in Japan and with the free Quad-Speed DSD256 upgrade, there is nothing to touch it.
 
ASIO 2.2 native DSD transfer  
Previously, the only native DSD transmission protocol was DSD over PCM (DoP). With the latest iFi driver, one can choose between ASIO 2.2 or DoP for native DSD playback.
 
[1] Firmware 4.0 must be used in conjunction with the latest iFi driver v2.20

[2] Quad-Speed is four times the SACD sample rate.

[3] It is also referred to as DSD256 because the sample rate is 256x that of CD.


 
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May 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM Post #475 of 2,063
OK, I updated my iDSD Nano FW to v4.0 today. I have a Macbook Pro (OSX Mavericks) and a Mac mini (Mavericks and Win7 under Bootcamp). For some reason update did not work under Bootcamp Win7-64bit. I had to do it using Parallels on Macbook Pro. 
 
When I run Audirvana+ it still reports DSD64 & 128. No DSD256 is recognised. Likewise JRiver for Mac reports only x2 DSD. Am I missing something here? Can anyone confirm what's expected after the update?
 
Sorry in advance if I missed something obvious and thanks
 
May 13, 2014 at 1:32 PM Post #476 of 2,063
My J.River 19 for windows is limited to 2xDSD for upsampling. You are not going to see a DSD256 option. If you have a DSD256 file it may play back it back at DSD256 using bit streaming. HQplayer for windows is the only player I know that can upsample to DSD256. I have heard that it works with the Nano. I have not tried it yet.
 
May 13, 2014 at 1:44 PM Post #477 of 2,063
OK, I updated my iDSD Nano FW to v4.0 today. I have a Macbook Pro (OSX Mavericks) and a Mac mini (Mavericks and Win7 under Bootcamp). For some reason update did not work under Bootcamp Win7-64bit. I had to do it using Parallels on Macbook Pro. 

When I run Audirvana+ it still reports DSD64 & 128. No DSD256 is recognised. Likewise JRiver for Mac reports only x2 DSD. Am I missing something here? Can anyone confirm what's expected after the update?

Sorry in advance if I missed something obvious and thanks
I wonder if audirvana is limited to 128 for now...maybe a software update is needed?
 
May 13, 2014 at 4:17 PM Post #478 of 2,063
I noticed that after upgrading to firmware 4.0 my Mac (A+, and Midi) "sees" the idsd like 24 bit DAC while before it showed like 32 bit.
Is this the case, or I don't remember correctly?
Also on PC the JRMC needs 24 bit integer setting on KS mode in order to play while before it played in 32 integer...

Something went wrong in my instalation or that's the way it is??
 
May 13, 2014 at 4:22 PM Post #479 of 2,063
What about batery?
Do you prefer it on batery or powered by USB?
 
 
And how should it be used in order to maintain batery life? 
Should it be permanently pluged or like any other device should it make charging cycles??
 
May 13, 2014 at 5:02 PM Post #480 of 2,063
  I noticed that after upgrading to firmware 4.0 my Mac (A+, and Midi) "sees" the idsd like 24 bit DAC while before it showed like 32 bit.
Is this the case, or I don't remember correctly?
 

 
using Audio Midi Setup to select the iDSD nano on macbook pro:
with the beta firmware showed as 24 bit, with pulldown selection up to 384.
 
 
just did my update to 4.0.
Audio Midi shows same.
 
using Audirvana+, it recognizes DAC as 24/384.
but Auto Detection does not recognize "light up" DSD64 or DSD128.
still must select
 DSD Over PCM
 

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