iFi Audio Gemini3.0 & Mercury3.0 - The New Dynamic Duo
post-13856581
Post #16 of 27

technobear

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Oct 27, 2010
Messages
2,127
Reaction score
628
Location
Glastonbury, UK
Joined
Oct 27, 2010
Location
Glastonbury, UK
Posts
2,127
Likes
628
     Share This Post       
post-13857027
Post #17 of 27

maro8

New Head-Fier
Joined
Nov 16, 2017
Messages
5
Reaction score
0
Location
Tokyo, Japan
Joined
Nov 16, 2017
Location
Tokyo, Japan
Posts
5
Likes
0
Yes you can. I've used the previous generation Gemini that way many times (and yes you can mix USB2.0 and USB3.0 ports and no I do not know which way round will sound better in your case).
Thank you for your reply. It brings me more questions. In this case Gemini work like single cable? If so, I think it doesn't work fully functionally. Mercury might be better choice. I wonder Gemini is good choice only for users they have micro/nano iUSB3.0 ?
 
     Share This Post       
post-13857155
Post #18 of 27
Joined
Jan 26, 2013
Messages
1,664
Reaction score
2,448
Location
Sale, UK
Joined
Jan 26, 2013
Location
Sale, UK
Posts
1,664
Likes
2,448
Website
audioprimate.blog
Thank you for your reply. It brings me more questions. In this case Gemini work like single cable? If so, I think it doesn't work fully functionally. Mercury might be better choice. I wonder Gemini is good choice only for users they have micro/nano iUSB3.0 ?
Both the Gemini 3.0 and the Mercury 3.0 are single cables. What makes the Gemini special is that physically separates off the USB power and data lines, which I've found improves sound with other double ended cables. This splitting means that you need two ports on your source to use the cable. If you can't make two ports available then the Gemini is not for you.


In this image, I believe that this is the chain:

Mac to Gemini 3.0 (£379) to iGalvanic 3.0 (£369) to Mercury 3.0 (£209).

It is possible that this is the chain with one element hiding behind the Mac:

Mac to Gemini 3.0 to iUSB3.0 (£195 for Nano, and £395) to Gemini 3.0. to iGalvanic 3.0 to Mercury 3.0
 
     Share This Post       
post-13857202
Post #19 of 27

technobear

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Oct 27, 2010
Messages
2,127
Reaction score
628
Location
Glastonbury, UK
Joined
Oct 27, 2010
Location
Glastonbury, UK
Posts
2,127
Likes
628
Thank you for your reply. It brings me more questions. In this case Gemini work like single cable? If so, I think it doesn't work fully functionally. Mercury might be better choice. I wonder Gemini is good choice only for users they have micro/nano iUSB3.0 ?
I currently have the data end of Gemini plugged into my desktop PC and the power end plugged into an iPower 5V. The other end goes into an iPurifier2 and micro iDSD.
 
     Share This Post       
post-13857389
Post #20 of 27

maro8

New Head-Fier
Joined
Nov 16, 2017
Messages
5
Reaction score
0
Location
Tokyo, Japan
Joined
Nov 16, 2017
Location
Tokyo, Japan
Posts
5
Likes
0
Both the Gemini 3.0 and the Mercury 3.0 are single cables. What makes the Gemini special is that physically separates off the USB power and data lines, which I've found improves sound with other double ended cables. This splitting means that you need two ports on your source to use the cable. If you can't make two ports available then the Gemini is not for you.


In this image, I believe that this is the chain:

Mac to Gemini 3.0 (£379) to iGalvanic 3.0 (£369) to Mercury 3.0 (£209).

It is possible that this is the chain with one element hiding behind the Mac:

Mac to Gemini 3.0 to iUSB3.0 (£195 for Nano, and £395) to Gemini 3.0. to iGalvanic 3.0 to Mercury 3.0
I currently have the data end of Gemini plugged into my desktop PC and the power end plugged into an iPower 5V. The other end goes into an iPurifier2 and micro iDSD.
I understand what glassmonkey and technobear said. I thought Normal PC cannot recognize which port is for data and for power. It must work like single head usb cable. But It was wrong. Gemini cable controls it, its not PC's task. So if two ports are available, I can use gemini cable. Thank you very much :D
 
     Share This Post       
post-15532980
Post #21 of 27

zorilon

Head-Fier
Joined
Mar 21, 2017
Messages
88
Reaction score
59
Location
Romania
Joined
Mar 21, 2017
Location
Romania
Posts
88
Likes
59
I use the Gemini 3.0 USB cable feeding data to DAC with the data side directly from my MacBook, and feeding clean power to DAC with the power side from a IFi Micro USB 3.0. It sounds better then sending data to Micro USB 3.0 first and then to DAC.

The Gemini 3.0 USB is a very good way to feed clean power to the USB DAC module in any DAC, and doing this it significantly improves the sound.
 
Last edited:
     Share This Post       
post-15534495
Post #22 of 27

iFi audio

Sponsor: iFi Audio
Joined
Mar 20, 2013
Messages
7,497
Reaction score
4,095
Location
Location: HQ in the UK, but spread far and wide.
Joined
Mar 20, 2013
Location
Location: HQ in the UK, but spread far and wide.
Posts
7,497
Likes
4,095
Website
ifi-audio.com
The Gemini 3.0 USB is a very good way to feed clean power to the USB DAC module in any DAC, and doing this it significantly improves the sound.
I agree. It's interesting to what measures (cables, reclocking, galvanic isolation) the USB interface responds really well and how much better can it get.
 
iFi audio Stay updated on iFi audio at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
https://www.facebook.com/iFiAudio/ https://twitter.com/ifiaudio https://www.instagram.com/ifiaudio/ https://ifi-audio.com/ info@ifi-audio.com
     Share This Post       
post-15534582
Post #23 of 27

alekc

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 27, 2020
Messages
185
Reaction score
105
Location
Poland
Joined
Jan 27, 2020
Location
Poland
Posts
185
Likes
105
     Share This Post       
post-15559599
Post #24 of 27

iFi audio

Sponsor: iFi Audio
Joined
Mar 20, 2013
Messages
7,497
Reaction score
4,095
Location
Location: HQ in the UK, but spread far and wide.
Joined
Mar 20, 2013
Location
Location: HQ in the UK, but spread far and wide.
Posts
7,497
Likes
4,095
Website
ifi-audio.com
I am asking since the shortest version I can find is 0.5m, and those are definitively shorter.
These shorties are not avialable. We made several for our own event usage only. Sorry!
 
iFi audio Stay updated on iFi audio at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
https://www.facebook.com/iFiAudio/ https://twitter.com/ifiaudio https://www.instagram.com/ifiaudio/ https://ifi-audio.com/ info@ifi-audio.com
     Share This Post       
post-15559662
Post #25 of 27

alekc

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 27, 2020
Messages
185
Reaction score
105
Location
Poland
Joined
Jan 27, 2020
Location
Poland
Posts
185
Likes
105
These shorties are not avialable. We made several for our own event usage only. Sorry!
Thank you for answer. I am sorry to hear that since adding 0.7m cable from iUSB to iDAC2 or iDSD micro while both units are on the same iRack less than 10 cm away is overkill especially for such nice setup that does not take a lot of space on my desk. It is not even about the price but more about usability in my case.
 
     Share This Post       
post-15559703
Post #26 of 27

iFi audio

Sponsor: iFi Audio
Joined
Mar 20, 2013
Messages
7,497
Reaction score
4,095
Location
Location: HQ in the UK, but spread far and wide.
Joined
Mar 20, 2013
Location
Location: HQ in the UK, but spread far and wide.
Posts
7,497
Likes
4,095
Website
ifi-audio.com
Thank you for answer. I am sorry to hear that since adding 0.7m cable from iUSB to iDAC2 or iDSD micro while both units are on the same iRack less than 10 cm away is overkill especially for such nice setup that does not take a lot of space on my desk. It is not even about the price but more about usability in my case.
I understand. Perhaps one day we will come up with a commercially available shorty USB cable. I'll let my team know that there's some demand for it.

Thanks for your input!
 
iFi audio Stay updated on iFi audio at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
https://www.facebook.com/iFiAudio/ https://twitter.com/ifiaudio https://www.instagram.com/ifiaudio/ https://ifi-audio.com/ info@ifi-audio.com
     Share This Post       
  • Like
Reactions: alekc and zorilon
post-15560602
Post #27 of 27

alekc

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 27, 2020
Messages
185
Reaction score
105
Location
Poland
Joined
Jan 27, 2020
Location
Poland
Posts
185
Likes
105
I understand. Perhaps one day we will come up with a commercially available shorty USB cable. I'll let my team know that there's some demand for it.

Thanks for your input!
You are welcome & thanks for passing my input. Keeping my fingers crossed for shorter Gemini cable :wink:
 
     Share This Post       
  • Like
Reactions: iFi audio

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top