redrich2000
Headphoneus Supremus
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Graphs are objective because they don't depend on one's subjective preferences and beliefs.
I don't agree with that, there tonnes of subjective choices related to graphing, starting with the belief that graphs are objective, the interest in graphing data, the choice of data to graph and what not to graph, the choice how to graph it. Then there are heaps more in terms of the subjective interpretation of the graph. Quoting from the wiki page on Latour I linked before: "In the laboratory, Latour and Woolgar observed that if a typical experiment produces only inconclusive data, then that is attributed to failure of the apparatus or experimental method, and that a large part of scientific training involves learning how to make the subjective decision of what data to keep and what data to throw out. Latour and Woolgar argued that, for untrained observers, the entire process resembles not an unbiased search for truth and accuracy but a mechanism for ignoring data that contradicts scientific orthodoxy.
I have no problem whatsoever with you using graphs and discussing them with others who are also interested. I object to your claim that the graphs "prove" anything, let alone that they prove you're right.
I already explained it. Accurate to me means high fidelity, which basically means true to the original recording. The more neutral and better measuring a headphone is, the closer it will sound to the original recording (provided that the source is sufficiently hi-fi as well, of course).
You've made my point for me here by saying "accurate to me". Accuracy is not an objective concept. In fact it is really just a word and like any word is open to a complex competing set of meanings depending on context, experience, belief, culture and so on. Even on head-fi, where we often reach relatively shared understandings of certain terms and concepts, accuracy is a very vague term with many different meanings. Again, that doesn't mean we can't talk about it, but I'd prefer if people recognised its subjective nature.
On my last point about your opinion of the RE-400, I never pretended to have anything other than anecdotal evidence, but I've read a lot about both phones on here and you are the only person with this opinion on the two. If I remember correctly, you also seemed to have a pretty unique position on a particular version of the RE-0 that you modified in some way as well. So maybe there's a pattern there, maybe not?
But despite all the above, you have made me try the RE-400s again and I'm about to dig out the double flange tips