iBasso D10. .UPDATES 1st page, with Current Opamp Choices by HiFlight . . . images page 1, 12, 13, 14, 15, 21, 71

[Armaegis]

Clearly, the obvious choice is to just buy them all and give 'em a try

 
Hiflight had suggested opamp 8616 with dummy buffers, but I didn't like that one at all. It just felt like it was missing something. My current favourite is with the 6643 buffers. I wonder what it would be like with the 8616 as buffers & opamp, but alas I only have 2 chips to go around.

 

[aqsw]

I was wondering if I ordered an Itouch dock - female 3.5mm, and a male 3.5mm -mini usb, could I use these items to bypass the itouch dac and use the dc10 dac and amplifier?
 
Also, Any suggestions why I cannot listen to itunes on my HP laptop(all 4 usb ports)with usb 2.0 - usb mini with the dc10, as I get crackling during all the songs, but I can use my LG netbook and it works perfectly with the exact same setup.
 
Thanks in advance,
Jim (A real nooB)

 

[Armaegis]

Cool, another Winnipegger (who also has a D10!).
 
I do not believe there is any way to bypass the ipod dac. The best you can do is get a lineout connector and connect that to the amp section of the D10. The only portable players that let you use an external DAC are the old irivers that have optical out.
 
When you have the D10 plugged in to your HP, do you get sound + static, or just static? If it's just static, it's possible the drivers didn't auto-install, or more likely you have to select the device from your sound control panel (bottom right corner of the screen, right click on the volume icon, go to "playback devices" and select "USB Audio CODEC" as your default sound device).

 

[Armaegis]

Is there a D10 opamp rolling journal anywhere? This massive thread is great for asking questions, but very difficult to search when looking for opinions on various opamps and buffers.
 
I've been accumulating my impressions in post #3984 two pages back as a reference for myself. I was thinking of starting a new thread with my impressions, and hoping other people would add their own experiences (and maybe just update their first posts, which would make things cleaner and easier to read).
 
I'm also curious as to whether people agree/disagree with my observations.

 

[aqsw]

Hi, I get sound and static.When doing your instructions, the playback devices I get are:
1- Digital output device(hdmi)
2-Speakers and dual headphones (Checked)
3-Independent dual headphones
4-SPDIF(digital output via hp dock)
 
Any ideas?
 
Thanks

 

[Armaegis]

Hmm, none of those sound like the D10. Here's the generic solution:
- shut down everything, reboot laptop
- plug in the D10 (it should auto install drivers the first time you plug it in; it this doesn't/never happens, then there's a problem)
- set the D10 as your default device (some machines to this automatically, others don't)
- start itunes
 
As a plug'n'play device, this *should* get your D10 working.

 

[HiFlight]

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Is there a D10 opamp rolling journal anywhere? This massive thread is great for asking questions, but very difficult to search when looking for opinions on various opamps and buffers.
 
I've been accumulating my impressions in post #3984 two pages back as a reference for myself. I was thinking of starting a new thread with my impressions, and hoping other people would add their own experiences (and maybe just update their first posts, which would make things cleaner and easier to read).
 
I'm also curious as to whether people agree/disagree with my observations.

Look on page 33 of this thread for some of my comments. 
Ron

 

[Armaegis]

Can you give me a post #? I probably have different page display settings and didn't find anything relevant on p.33.

 

[MacedonianHero]

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I do not believe there is any way to bypass the ipod dac. The best you can do is get a lineout connector and connect that to the amp section of the D10. The only portable players that let you use an external DAC are the old irivers that have optical out.

There actually is, the iWadia can pull the digital data straight out of an iPod, then you would need a DAC/AMP to process the signal. Sadly though, it's not cheap.

 

[wuwhere]

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There actually is, the iWadia can pull the digital data straight out of an iPod, then you would need a DAC/AMP to process the signal. Sadly though, it's not cheap.

And not portable.

 

[MacedonianHero]

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And not portable.

True dat!

 

[wuwhere]

 
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Cool, another Winnipegger (who also has a D10!).
 
I do not believe there is any way to bypass the ipod dac. The best you can do is get a lineout connector and connect that to the amp section of the D10. The only portable players that let you use an external DAC are the old irivers that have optical out.
 
When you have the D10 plugged in to your HP, do you get sound + static, or just static? If it's just static, it's possible the drivers didn't auto-install, or more likely you have to select the device from your sound control panel (bottom right corner of the screen, right click on the volume icon, go to "playback devices" and select "USB Audio CODEC" as your default sound device).

Submit
The iRivers iHP-120/140 can also be modified for coax out to feed the D10's coax instead of optical.

 

[Sid-Fi]

I know this has been covered in many reviews of the D10, many of which I have read, but I was recently pretty shocked to discover how much better my D10 with topkit sounds through my recently acquired Onkyo ND-S1 (using IE8) compared to through the D10's usb input.
 
After using D10 through usb mostly for almost a year (starting out in the hobby and hadn't bought any other transports until now), I felt like I traded it in and bought a DAC costing a couple hundred dollars more when I got the ND-S1. Also, my D10 sounds nearly as good through the Onkyo usb to spdif converter as it does through the iPod > Onkyo > optical. It must have some significant anti-jitter capability to make this much of a difference. Either that or the D10 usb is flat out bad.
 
Just wanted to share my experience in case any other newer members had been using D10 primarily through USB for awhile. 
 
Also, just want to squeeze in a quick thanks to Ron. Damn your topkit is nice. Since D10 and IE8 have been my first setup and since I have literally listened to it every single day since I got it almost a year ago, the value that the topkit has added for me is pretty much unmeasurable. Again, a sincere thanks. Also, a thanks to Larry for turning me on to the setup and to the topkit. Its been an awesome value. Thanks again!
 
-Dave

 

[Armaegis]

Okay, so the opamp is what takes the signal from the DAC and amplifies it. What do the buffers do?
 
I know in a generic sense, they prevent direct connection from the opamp to the output (which is why the dummies have resistors, from my limited understanding). But do they provide additional amplification (or the opposite, or none at all)?
 
From my experimenting so far, it feels as though the the chips when used as buffers affect the sound signature in a slightly lesser way than when they are used as opamps.

 

[Armaegis]

Another random question to throw out there: what happens if you put in a chip upside down?