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Got the hint again 10Xcubed. going to miss the chord comradery lol.+10XCubed.
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Got the hint again 10Xcubed. going to miss the chord comradery lol.+10XCubed.
Now this gets back to my fundamental question, which rob answered in my first question of mscaler thread. If one has a reference server what does m scaler add to the table?
@Rob Watts - Hi Rob. I wonder if you would be so kind as to educate me a little on handshakes over USB.
Must of us with a Blu2 (or just a DAVE) well understand that this needs 5v power on the input usb for handshake purposes, but I had hoped that this could be switched off once the handshake had taken place. The SOtM tX-USBultra regenerator I have between my Innuos Zenith SE server and my Blu2 allows the vbus to be switched off on each of its two USB outputs. I just tried switching off the vbus on the output I was using to connect to the Blu2 and lost all sound. Why am I bothering to try this? Well, because I was pleased to discover yesterday that when switching off the vbus on the small USPCB I have temporarily connecting the Zenith server to the tX-U I got an immediate and significant improvement in sound quality with noise levels dropping and everything becoming cleaner and more punchy.
Can you explain a little how this handshake business works on your dacs and why my attempt to continue playing after switching off the vbus failed? I'm posting on the Mscaler thread as I will be trading in my Blu2 for an Mscaler (and some other stuff) once that comes out. Thanks.
@Rob Watts - Hi Rob. I wonder if you would be so kind as to educate me a little on handshakes over USB.
Must of us with a Blu2 (or just a DAVE) well understand that this needs 5v power on the input usb for handshake purposes, but I had hoped that this could be switched off once the handshake had taken place. The SOtM tX-USBultra regenerator I have between my Innuos Zenith SE server and my Blu2 allows the vbus to be switched off on each of its two USB outputs. I just tried switching off the vbus on the output I was using to connect to the Blu2 and lost all sound. Why am I bothering to try this? Well, because I was pleased to discover yesterday that when switching off the vbus on the small USPCB I have temporarily connecting the Zenith server to the tX-U I got an immediate and significant improvement in sound quality with noise levels dropping and everything becoming cleaner and more punchy.
Can you explain a little how this handshake business works on your dacs and why my attempt to continue playing after switching off the vbus failed? I'm posting on the Mscaler thread as I will be trading in my Blu2 for an Mscaler (and some other stuff) once that comes out. Thanks.
Very strange. I turn off the bus on my tX-U and my Blu2 continues playing music fine with a standard USB cable.
It however doesn't work with an unpowered USB cable.
As for improvement in sound quality I am not convinced but I turn it off as I guess it couldn't be worse.
The Blu2 uses the VBUS only as a logic level flag - and it's RF filtered too. So removing it will ensure that Blu2 will not use the USB as a valid input. I can see no logical way that it can possibly change the SQ.
I guess it's leakage current making the flag float high. It's a high impedance input.
Thanks, Rob. I’ll leave that one then.The Blu2 uses the VBUS only as a logic level flag - and it's RF filtered too. So removing it will ensure that Blu2 will not use the USB as a valid input. I can see no logical way that it can possibly change the SQ.
I completely don't understand where you are coming from I'm afraid.
The server is just the source of the digital signal. Its job is to supply the digital signal to the DAC or MScaler in an uncorrupted form and without added noise.
How can a server (to quote you) "produce both amplitude, width, and breadth of the sound stage, this in fact with accuracy and true separation polyphonically with correct timing and timber, will reproduce a live in it 3d feel without surround"? If the server influences the final sound in this way and is adding those qualities then I am more inclined to think it is adding RF noise and which produces RF artifacts that are mistaken for all those things.
Rob can certainly give a better explanation than me but what the MScaler does is to take the redbook digital signal and turn that into an analogue signal which is as close as possible to the original recorded analogue sound.
That is what the MScaler adds to the table. The reference server you talk about can only hope to supply an unpolluted digital signal, it cannot bring anything more to the table than that.
I completely don't understand where you are coming from I'm afraid.
The server is just the source of the digital signal. Its job is to supply the digital signal to the DAC or MScaler in an uncorrupted form and without added noise.
How can a server (to quote you) "produce both amplitude, width, and breadth of the sound stage, this in fact with accuracy and true separation polyphonically with correct timing and timber, will reproduce a live in it 3d feel without surround"? If the server influences the final sound in this way and is adding those qualities then I am more inclined to think it is adding RF noise and which produces RF artifacts that are mistaken for all those things.
Rob can certainly give a better explanation than me but what the MScaler does is to take the redbook digital signal and turn that into an analogue signal which is as close as possible to the original recorded analogue sound.
That is what the MScaler adds to the table. The reference server you talk about can only hope to supply an unpolluted digital signal, it cannot bring anything more to the table than that.
I’m keeping my Blu2 as well, it’s still a better chassis and power supply than M scaler, IMO.
I think it’s nasty to talk about another member like that. Absolutely no respect.He just like to talk about his server (ya know, the one that was hand delivered by god) whenever he gets a chance.