Hugo M Scaler by Chord Electronics - The Official Thread

[Triode User]

Ah, now I understand.

In which case I think my answer is that what the MScaler does and the 1M taps is not relative to audible frequencies of different people but is something that is applicable across the frequency spectrum. By that I mean that no matter how ‘good’ your own hearing is you will still hear the difference between say 0.5M taps and 1M taps.

RW can probably (certainty) express it better but that’s my 2p.

 

[musickid]

Actually that's an interesting point. Maybe someone with a "golden ear" might be able to deconstruct the same set of sounds over any given fixed frequency spectrum?? Anyway i've placed a deposit on a silver H2/mscaler. Very excited after months of research and saving.. In that case a person with a golden ear might hear more detail in a £500 set up as opposed to someone who can't deconstruct similar audible cues with a £5000 set up. So ears rule above all else. Safe volume to all.

 

[auded33]

I understand your point and the technicalities. However, some people can’t tell the difference between 16/44.1 and 24/192 so it still depends on the individual ear.

 

[Nik74]

Actually that's an interesting point. Maybe someone with a "golden ear" might be able to deconstruct the same set of sounds over any given fixed frequency spectrum?? Anyway i've placed a deposit on a silver H2/mscaler. Very excited after months of research and saving.. In that case a person with a golden ear might hear more detail in a £500 set up as opposed to someone who can't deconstruct similar audible cues with a £5000 set up. So ears rule above all else. Safe volume to all.

I agree completely with this last sentence. I also feel that perhaps the ability to hear the absolute extremes of the frequency range does not mean that one has golden ears or someone that because of age has a slightly more limited audible frequency range doesn't. So many other parameters are processed by our brains to form an impression of sound. I m sure 1M taps affects all those parameters and find that much more exciting than what it might do to the frequency extremes.

 

[Triode User]

My point was that the 1M taps affects the shape and character of a bass note just as much as it affects top end treble. Anyway, what the MScaler does is not marginal or subtle, it is very compelling and I have yet to meet anyone who cannot immediately hear what it does for the music regardless of hearing.

 

[Amberlamps]

So does anyone know if bnc cables come supplied in the hms box, to hook up to chord dacs ?

Or do we have to buy our own ?

Plus, do cables come in the TT2 box ?

I know I am quoting myself but, the above question regarding cables.

Rob has confirmed that,


“Yes the Hugo M scaler will come with 1M BNC/BNC pair”

 

[Whazzzup]

Well that’s a nice 5$ offering.

 

[Amberlamps]

Well that’s a nice 5$ offering.

He also said and I quote.


“I have some cable listening tests when I get home, but my initial tests are showing no changes with cables.”


So, if $5 sounds the same as $500, why buy the dearer one ?

I can understand if it was clothes, to look good, but a hidden wire that has no benefits except for lightening your wallet ?

 

[Whazzzup]

75 ohm bnc are 2.50$ /per 3 ft approximately. I did see them as high as 7$... Available everywhere. But moot point now we get them in the box.

 

[auded33]

In response to Triode User, I think you are probably correct, ‘most’ people would hear an improvement using the M Scaler in the correct setup and I look forward to receiving mine hooked up to my Sonore Ulrarendu Signature and Chord DAVE.
Rob Watts has an interest in producing even more taps, believing that there are more gains to be had but I doubt he has an accurate idea of what the point is beyond which the human ear can’t discern any more improvement. I think I have quite good hearing for my age and I can tell the difference that 24/192 has over lower sample rates. I’m confident I will hear improvements that my M Scaler will bring in terms of upsampling but I’m not sure that my own ears will be able to tell the difference between, say, 384 KHz and 768 KHz let alone something even higher like 1536 KHz or 3072 KHz or..........

 

[Amberlamps]

75 ohm bnc are 2.50$ /per 3 ft approximately. I did see them as high as 7$... Available everywhere. But moot point now we get them in the box.

What 7 bux

Scammers are everywhere nowadays.

The above free cables is good from my point of view as I don’t have anything that uses bnc. So they will come in handy on day 1 for me. However, I will buy nice ones, but won’t pay silly money for them.

My cable game is solely for my iem’s. Gotta look nice whilst I am strutting my stuff down at the harbour.

 

[musickid]

For an investment of approx. £50 a vast improvement in the quality of bnc cables can be achieved. The quality of the bnc cable is the weakest link and can ultimately allow the scaler to shine in all its glory....hint search amphenol on blu2 thread if you want a bargain and are working to a tight budget.

 

[tunes]

What cables are provided with th M-scaler? Is there such a thing as audiophile BNC cables for the M-scaler to DAVE? Can your digital media be fed to the M-scaler by both usb and Toslink optical??

 

[musickid]

All the answers are everywhere.....

 

[Amberlamps]

For an investment of approx. £50 a vast improvement in the quality of bnc cables can be achieved. The quality of the bnc cable is the weakest link and can ultimately allow the scaler to shine in all its glory....hint search amphenol on blu2 thread if you want a bargain and are working to a tight budget.

My limit for cables, would be roughly £100. I am sure I can get something decent for that.

I will check out those cables you mentioned above, amphenol. But will do it after my kit arrives.

Cheers