Hugo M Scaler by Chord Electronics - The Official Thread
Feb 27, 2022 at 11:39 AM Post #15,001 of 18,436
I used the TT2 only for headphone use with the M-Scaler.
Interesting. What was it about the TT2 you didn't like through headphones?
 
Feb 27, 2022 at 11:44 AM Post #15,002 of 18,436
Maybe after 235,905 taps the difference is imperceptible? You also might want stop the pursuit or you'll end up with $4k cable suggestions.
You could be right - but some people seem adamant that one is better than the other; I just wanted to try to see understand my own experience - basically, to figure out what I'm supposed to be hearing. Is it better bass? is it clearer imaging? is it better definition?

But ultimately, I want to get back to listening to the music, not the system. I think that's why I liked the M-Scaler/TT2 combo so much: it just sounded so musical to me: engaging, vivid - realistic. These are the sounds I hear in a concert hall. That, for me, is the ultimate reference.
 
Feb 27, 2022 at 1:06 PM Post #15,004 of 18,436
More then 6 hours, but I didn’t want to run it till the end, so it was disconnected when it started to show 25%.
Excellent. Thank you.
 
Feb 27, 2022 at 10:03 PM Post #15,005 of 18,436
Feb 27, 2022 at 10:59 PM Post #15,006 of 18,436
I currently have my TT2 stacked on my M Scaler. How far apart should I separate them for reduced RF interference? Would something like this be suitable? https://www.amazon.com/Ginger-Reindeer-Lifestyle-0-2-Dust-Proof/dp/B0979G6T2R/ref=sr_1_28?crid=2TAGHQ81QW234&keywords=desk+riser+12+in&qid=1646017112&sprefix=desk+riser+12+in,aps,111&sr=8-28#customerReviews
I’ve finally moved my M Scaler as far away from my TT2 and the rest of my audio gear as possible given the length of the BNC cables that I’m using. This has really helped the SQ of my system and the positive affect was easily noticeable. The HMS is of course the silver box in the corner.
 

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Feb 28, 2022 at 9:51 AM Post #15,007 of 18,436
I have noticed a huge improvement the Mscaler has brought to my new Weiss DAC502. I had the TT2 for several years and then demoed the Weiss and have not looked back. The Weiss is very resolving and when the mscaler is connected I get the resolution and a smoother more analogue presentation. No fatigue, soundstage, detail and I can listen to hours with any headphone. I don't think I appreciated the Mscaler fully until I moved to a more resolving DAC. Maybe this is why there is such a noted improvement when it is also paired with the Dave.
 
Feb 28, 2022 at 10:44 AM Post #15,008 of 18,436
Feb 28, 2022 at 12:50 PM Post #15,009 of 18,436
I currently have my TT2 stacked on my M Scaler. How far apart should I separate them for reduced RF interference? Would something like this be suitable? https://www.amazon.com/Ginger-Reindeer-Lifestyle-0-2-Dust-Proof/dp/B0979G6T2R/ref=sr_1_28?crid=2TAGHQ81QW234&keywords=desk+riser+12+in&qid=1646017112&sprefix=desk+riser+12+in,aps,111&sr=8-28#customerReviews
Hi, I’ve just bought something very similar to this


VonHaus Monitor Stand for Desks - Height Adjustable - Screen Riser for Computers, Laptops & TVs - Clear Curved Glass with Aluminium Legs - Designed for Home or Office - 38.5 x 24cm https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0195D2...t_i_7F40TAT9JP7F7AKEZE6J?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I’m using to sit between one of my boxes after separating the M scaler from the TT2 as you can see here 👇🏼
I’m going to get another one to do the same thing for my M scaler
 

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Feb 28, 2022 at 1:49 PM Post #15,010 of 18,436
Mar 1, 2022 at 6:50 AM Post #15,011 of 18,436
@Olmanwood123, I read this review last month about the Weiss DAC502, and I was intrigued about how it sounds. https://www.whathifi.com/us/reviews/weiss-dac502. How do you have the M Scaler connected to the Weiss DAC?
Hmm, going by specs and dac chip used I would be very surprised if it beats your TT2/Mscaler judging from the fact that it seems to be based around an older ESS dac chipand possibly the same one or very similar one to the one I have in my old Benchmark DAC2HGC ie a ESSS 9018.
Not bad as chip based dacs go and in my speaker based system I preferred it to Hugo 1 which suffered from lots of RF there .But Qutest beats it on its own and although my HGC2 also sounds better with a the Mscaler at 192 khz it is to my ears still really not in the same territory as Qutest /Mscaler at 32/768.
"whathifi" is not a review source I would trust much anyway.
But until auditioned I should maybe " hold my horses" as far as DAC502 is concerned, their Minerva was one of the better dacs in its day, so who knows?
Cheers CC
 
Mar 1, 2022 at 6:58 AM Post #15,012 of 18,436
Hi, I’ve just bought something very similar to this


VonHaus Monitor Stand for Desks - Height Adjustable - Screen Riser for Computers, Laptops & TVs - Clear Curved Glass with Aluminium Legs - Designed for Home or Office - 38.5 x 24cm https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0195D2...t_i_7F40TAT9JP7F7AKEZE6J?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I’m using to sit between one of my boxes after separating the M scaler from the TT2 as you can see here 👇🏼
I’m going to get another one to do the same thing for my M scaler
Nice to see a Musical Fidelity amp in your system.
But although you are separating TT2 and Mscaler well, isn´t Mscaler causing RF interference on top of your Streamer instead?
I keep mine as far away as possible from any other HIFI equipment including my Qutest as my Storm BNCs allow ie 1metre and now enjoy the best SQ I have had from it.
Cheers CC
 
Mar 1, 2022 at 7:59 AM Post #15,013 of 18,436
Nice to see a Musical Fidelity amp in your system.
But although you are separating TT2 and Mscaler well, isn´t Mscaler causing RF interference on top of your Streamer instead?
I keep mine as far away as possible from any other HIFI equipment including my Qutest as my Storm BNCs allow ie 1metre and now enjoy the best SQ I have had from it.
Cheers CC
I don’t know whether it is or not, what I do know is my system sounds better than it ever has. But I intend buying another glass shelf to separate M scaler from the Innuos as soon as it comes back in stock. Another thing I’ve just changed is powering the TT2 with a Poweroak power bank, and the difference to the stock power supply is simply revelatory! Definitely another power bank to be ordered for the m scaler asap!
 
Mar 1, 2022 at 8:12 AM Post #15,015 of 18,436
@Christer, you never know how any piece of gear like a DAC will sound in a system until you try it. But that being said, I’ve got a friend in Italy who really likes his Weiss DAC. He says it has a nice warmth and fullness to its sound. How it would compare to mine I’m not sure. I purpose built my system around the TT2 specifically, so it’s probably unfair for me to speculate because my setup sounds exactly the way I want it to. I’m always interested though in how other folks build their systems and what kind of sound signatures that they are looking for.
 

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