How to make an interconnect Step by Step With Pics

[dazzer1975]

Im the last person to look for advice and I would get a definitive answer from someone else but looking at this thread and what I have read I would go:

1 left
1 right
braid the remaining two wires together and solder to ground on 1/4 connecter end, and other end as you say 1 left ground 1 right ground.

shielding would then be soldered to ground on 1/4 jack ground only.

if you can understand that?

As above though, please seek definitive answer from someone who knows what they are doing.

I am a complete noob but this is how I would do it from reading this thread.

 

[leeperry]

ok so I've modded my 770pro/250 w/ a neutrik 1/4 plus some very thick Real cable "high resolution" dual shielded OFC, and *******!!! it sounds good

I've kept all the grounds common, coz well it's unbalanced...so who cares

but ppl who say that recabling doesn't make any difference....need to try it

 

[apatN]

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Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif ok so I go like this : 1 for L 1 for R 1 for L ground 1 for R ground and the shielding braid connecting to the 1/4 connector ground, but NOT to the headphones

It really won't be necessary to connect the braid to the connector's ground plateau.

 

[leeperry]

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Originally Posted by apatN /img/forum/go_quote.gif It really won't be necessary to connect the braid to the connector's ground plateau.

ahhhhh, too late

it sounds awesome anyway, the soundstage seems wider, the mids are not muffled anymore and the bass is more controlled.

calling recabling snake oil is nonsense

 

[apatN]

No, sorry I can not understand that.

EDIT: Irresponsible forum. Damn thing. This post was meant at Dazzer1975.

 

[leeperry]

ah dammit, I've just realized that there was some arrows on the cable, prolly to tell which way the signal should go.....and I got it the opposite way, of course

I'm not doing it again anyhow

PS: humm some tracks with counterbass(like the SNATCH soundtrack) sound really different now..

 

[dazzer1975]

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Originally Posted by apatN /img/forum/go_quote.gif No, sorry I can not understand that. EDIT: Irresponsible forum. Damn thing. This post was meant at Dazzer1975.

ah ok re shielding thanks for clearing that up.

 

[qusp]

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Originally Posted by Luca T /img/forum/go_quote.gif Understood, thanks! But why did they create the star-quad cable with 4 wires? They could do a cable with just three wires 1L,1R e 1 Ground! Does the ground need two wires?

several reasons
1. it is better to have a ground/return per channel so each signal has ground potential that is equal to or better than the outgoing signal
2. if it only had 3 it couldnt be used for any cable that split at some point into 2 separate channels ie. a mini to RCA or ....headphone cable
3. it couldnt be used for a balanced anything
4. it wouldnt be very accurate to call it star quad then would it??

 

[qusp]

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Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif ahhhhh, too late it sounds awesome anyway, the soundstage seems wider, the mids are not muffled anymore and the bass is more controlled. calling recabling snake oil is nonsense

yes; but then what would they have to argue about??

 

[ashmedai]

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Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif calling recabling snake oil is nonsense

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. There are facts in there. But sometimes people take them and run far afield with them.

 

[leeperry]

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Originally Posted by qusp /img/forum/go_quote.gif several reasons 1. it is better to have a ground/return per channel so each signal has ground potential that is equal to or better than the outgoing signal 2. if it only had 3 it couldnt be used for any cable that split at some point into 2 separate channels ie. a mini to RCA or ....headphone cable 3. it couldnt be used for a balanced anything 4. it wouldnt be very accurate to call it star quad then would it??

so keeping all the grounds common is OK for a stereo unbalanced 1/4 TRS cable ?
I've soldered 2 wires from the quad to the common ground in the phones

and soldering the shielding braid ONLY to the 1/4 connector's ground is also recommended, I think ?
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Originally Posted by ashmedai /img/forum/go_quote.gif Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. There are facts in there. But sometimes people take them and run far afield with them.

I've posted my impressions here :
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/5436617-post24.html

clearly the new cable is of much higher resolution than all my previous ones....the 770Pro is pretty darn accurate, but it doesn't cope w/ mediocrity....what you hear is what you get

for the record, I use the amplified headphones output(2*NE5532) of my soundcard in bit-perfect, I also used to work as a sound engineer and I've done an audio check up last week...doctor said my audition was "spot on"

 

[ruZZ.il]

Don't worry about that arrow on the cable. The arrow usually points away from where the shielding is connected to the ground. Since you did your own re-wiring, you basically physically defined your own direction

 

[leeperry]

ok thanks for the clarification

anyway, Real cable used some high grade OFC cable, but they used 2 wires for L, 2 for R and the OFC shielding braid for common ground......how high end is this anyway ?

also, I wanted to use 3% silver solder, but the damn thing didn't stick to the golden plated neutrik 1/4 connector, so I gave up and used regular solder..

 

[ashmedai]

Yeah, regular lead-based eutectic is very hard to beat.

 

[thedips]

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Originally Posted by ashmedai /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yeah, regular lead-based eutectic is very hard to beat.

unless its cardas quad eutectic solder

also.. i had a question....
im sure its probably in here but 55 page deep hard to search....


what effects do you get when you mix the diferent properties of wire when making your connectors like mixing (OFC / COPPER PLATED SILVER / SILVER WIRE) for ground and signal or using different AWG for signal ground....???

would it hurt much? are there general rules when doing stuff like that? etc....

for example... using 2/20 awg stranded silver plated copper for signal and 2/22 OFC for ground ina litz braid?
i guess in a general canare star quad cable... the ground is always double the signal since u are using 2 of the 4 connectors for ground...

thanks for any help in advance