How to Equalize Your Headphones: 2016 update
Sep 9, 2016 at 6:13 AM Post #46 of 62
Hi Ruben,

Conversion DSP options are separate from those specified for playback (and rightly so). When you get to the convert context menu, choose the custom option at the bottom to open the full list of options, in which in you click on the DSP menu you'd get a replica of the DSP menu in main preferences.

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Sep 9, 2016 at 7:03 AM Post #47 of 62
Thanks, that would be it! Unfortunately Foobar now crashes everytime I try to load my preset.... Luck isnt on my side today :)

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Nevermind Im going to have to use Audacity instead. Foobar keeps crashing whatever I do. The very moment I select "configure DSP", I select the preset in ElectriQ, whole Foobar crashes. If anyone has a fix, Id like to know. Else I will try Audacity instead.
 
Sep 15, 2016 at 3:50 PM Post #48 of 62
So I got it working! WIth Audacity and EasyQ, though it works and Im happy with that. It sounds like cr@p, really bad, but it works so when I have some time I will sure look how I could get its full potential. Thanks Joe!
 
Sep 15, 2016 at 4:20 PM Post #49 of 62
Thanks, that would be it! Unfortunately Foobar now crashes everytime I try to load my preset.... Luck isnt on my side today :)

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Nevermind Im going to have to use Audacity instead. Foobar keeps crashing whatever I do. The very moment I select "configure DSP", I select the preset in ElectriQ, whole Foobar crashes. If anyone has a fix, Id like to know. Else I will try Audacity instead.


Oy vey. If you're using the VST version of Electri-Q, well that can only load presets through foobar's native presets system (i.e. global presets for the whole DSP chain, including which DSPs to load and how each is set). Sorry about that.
 
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Sep 15, 2016 at 4:22 PM Post #50 of 62
So I got it working! WIth Audacity and EasyQ, though it works and Im happy with that. It sounds like cr@p, really bad, but it works so when I have some time I will sure look how I could get its full potential. Thanks Joe!


I think it probably comes down to being too ambitious the first time around--one should aim to just correct obvious problems (e.g. sibilance caused by one or two sharp treble peaks, just get those out of the way) rather than reshape the whole curve until one has determined one's own equal loudness curve somehow and is quite very familiar with it.
 
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Sep 19, 2016 at 2:47 PM Post #51 of 62
I think it probably comes down to being too ambitious the first time around--one should aim to just correct obvious problems (e.g. sibilance caused by one or two sharp treble peaks, just get those out of the way) rather than reshape the whole curve until one has determined one's own equal loudness curve somehow and is quite very familiar with it.


I think so. Been trying to correct it a bit too much, overzealous to say. At least now I know how it works (pretty simple after all, even easier in Audacity I think). Now it's waiting for a rainy evening :) Thanks for all the help!
 
Sep 23, 2016 at 4:52 AM Post #52 of 62
Some god or so from above must hate me, for creating all those crashes lol.
 
My problem is as follows. Electri-Q crashes in both Audacity and Foobar, but not in Potplayer.
EasyQ works flawlessly in Audacity but not in Potplayer.
 
Been looking for another software program that can use EasyQ but that is somewhat impossible. What somewhat works is using Electri in Potplayer and mimic the gotten FR in EasyQ in Audacity, but completely mimicing the FR is not possible of course. If any of you got the software working correctly, could you please tell me -if you have had the crashes too- what you did to fix it? This drives me mad :)
 
Sep 23, 2016 at 2:44 PM Post #53 of 62
How does Electri-Q crash in Audacity? Haven't had that happen tbh.
 
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Sep 23, 2016 at 3:42 PM Post #54 of 62
When I try to load a preset it freezes completely. Found anoher mentioning of someone having the same crash. I might try a 32 bit Windows, perhaps that helps? What Windows do you have? Also have a WinXP notebook somewhere... might give it a try too.
 
Sep 24, 2016 at 12:49 AM Post #55 of 62
When I try to load a preset it freezes completely. Found anoher mentioning of someone having the same crash. I might try a 32 bit Windows, perhaps that helps? What Windows do you have? Also have a WinXP notebook somewhere... might give it a try too.


I'm running 64 bit windows 7. I'm running an older version of audacity, 2.0.6.

I get the load preset freeze bug on foobar2000 (if you load a preset file using M->Presets) but not in Audacity. My advice would be to work between presets in foobar2000 using the built in foobar2000 preset function, but to export to Audacity using M->Presets .e-q files and load them that way in Audacity.

Oh and are you running the VST or Winamp plugin...?
 
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Oct 2, 2016 at 4:38 PM Post #56 of 62
I'm running 64 bit windows 7. I'm running an older version of audacity, 2.0.6.

I get the load preset freeze bug on foobar2000 (if you load a preset file using M->Presets) but not in Audacity. My advice would be to work between presets in foobar2000 using the built in foobar2000 preset function, but to export to Audacity using M->Presets .e-q files and load them that way in Audacity.

Oh and are you running the VST or Winamp plugin...?

Im sorry for not replying for so long, had some exams and so going on! :)
 
I will try to find an older version of Foobar. Audacity also crashes when I try to load a preset, but reinstalling or finding an older version would work too. Then I could try what youre saying, hoping it will do fine. To be fair I dont know if I run VST or Winamp, I couldnt get it working at first so I did several things and out of nothing I got it working. I think it works via the VST wrapper though. Many thanks for your help and time, really appreciated.
 
Oct 3, 2016 at 3:34 AM Post #57 of 62
I have a set of JH Audio Laya IEMs that I want to sound more like the rock tuning of the JH Audio Roxanne IEMs. If I'm understanding this thread correctly, is it as simple as measuring the frequency response of the Roxannes and creating a EQ profile with the same frequency curve, and then importing it to my source (a Fiio X7)? Can you really make a pair of headphones/IEMs sound like anything you want just by creating an EQ profile?
 
Pardon my ignorance...
 
Oct 3, 2016 at 4:32 AM Post #58 of 62
I have a set of JH Audio Laya IEMs that I want to sound more like the rock tuning of the JH Audio Roxanne IEMs. If I'm understanding this thread correctly, is it as simple as measuring the frequency response of the Roxannes and creating a EQ profile with the same frequency curve, and then importing it to my source (a Fiio X7)? Can you really make a pair of headphones/IEMs sound like anything you want just by creating an EQ profile?

Pardon my ignorance...


It's a yes and a no at the same time--yes because it is almost completely true in principle (that frequency response makes up 90% of how a pair of headphone sounds), and no because the frequency response shaping required (i.e. EQing) is quite often beyond the ability of the user to determine and beyond the ability of the software / hardware (usually software these days) to implement. For example, your X7's stock music app only has a 10 band graphic equalizer, which may be enough to get you into the ballpark but not enough to get you the exact sound of another pair of headphones. And to achieve the transmutation you desire, you need to measure the sound of both earphones as heard by your ears, precisely, somehow (it is relatively easy to get IEM couplers to measure IEMs precisely, somewhat harder to measure the sound of an IEM by ear, harder again to measure the sound of TWO IEMs by ear (the errors add up)...

That's why instead of aiming for the sound of another headphones, I aim to simply better the sound of the phones I am holding at the moment.

That said, I have actually heard the Laylas as universals (mark I I think) and if what you're hearing is anything like what I heard, it would appear that some significant boosts to the 2kHz and 4kHz sliders on the X7 (all the way up, even--it's only 6dB), should get you some way toward gaining back the edge and bite to the sound that the Laylas lack :smile:
 
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Oct 29, 2016 at 6:49 AM Post #59 of 62
So I finally got it completely working! Foobar2000 on a Win XP notebook, and PotPlayer on a regular Win7 notebook. Now only fine tuning my preferences and hoping it wont crash in XP ultimately (as it did in 7) :)
 
 
Might I add: playing your favourite song through Potplayer makes it easy to hear if you EQ'ed it well. I thought the sweep sounded quite OK but then I played a song I know well and I heared the singer's voice going up and down in volume when it shouldnt. Easy test Id say!
 
Oct 31, 2016 at 8:04 PM Post #60 of 62
Yes, yes, that last part is true. Sweep test is good for smoothing out the frequency response and a first approximation but a music listening test will show you how well you did (didn't) do.

Listening to music only, on the other hand, doesn't let you know which frequencies in particular are going wrong.

These days I add a realtime spectrum analyzer into the mix. Voxengo SPAN is a good free one.
 
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