Home-Made IEMs
Sep 14, 2017 at 11:40 PM Post #6,811 of 15,989
Just made some measurements of a bunch of dynamic drivers from Taobao, these were chosen quite randomly (mostly by their marketing material and/or user feedback), might be of help to anyone else interested in incorporating dynamics in their projects. Not really my point to endorse any specific shops, so I just put their images on top. There's also 2 "biological" polymer drivers, not enough to conclusively say that they're different from traditional materials.

Notes: Measurements with Dayton IMM6, FFT Plot on iPhone 6s. "Coupler" was a repurposed pen rubber grip, insertion depth 12±2 mm. No nozzle or case was used, seal was ensured by blutak. A periodic white noise file was used (Check Crinacle's thread), and no burn-in was done. Realised at the end that I accidentally switched measuring modes (Graph to Simple, Average to Infinite) halfway through, so do take note of those differences. I try to get the average volume to 0db, but the drivers vary widely in sensitivity, as much as 3 volume notches on iphone 6s. No subjective comments yet, have not tried them in ears.

Most are 9/9.2mms, with a 8mm random gift and 2 10mms at the end. I'll note any exceptions.

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The following exhibits very weird bass region. I noticed this early and re-tested/sealed multiple times, even checking other drivers and coming back to this, but it always ends up like this, so it might be just a driver quirk or some other very odd and specific interaction with my setup.
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Following is advertised as a "Biological" polymer
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Following is a 8mm! Random gift from one of the sellers.
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Following measurements are Average "Infinite" and Graph "Simple"!
Following is advertised as a "Biological" polymer
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Last 2 are 10mms.
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Sep 16, 2017 at 12:02 PM Post #6,812 of 15,989
JH Audio Layla DIY Custom reshell

My plans:

- Make CIEM from universal
- Replacing JH Audio 4 pin connector for 2 pin connectors
- Bass potentiometer in the shell
- Addition to Apex Module

Plans have succeeded. The sound stage is wider, the music does not bother. M15 is no longer a natural bass, but M20 is perfect.

The JH Audio iems building quality is horrible!

On left side, in crossower the 3 pieses 150 uH inductors had a resistance of 14.5 ohms and 7.5 ohms on the right. Therefore, left inductor amount (3 inductors in series) was 43.5 ohms and the right was 22.5 ohms. This was the case with the mid crossower.
Therefore, the sound was completely semi-sided

Layla crossover structure:

Low (double Sonion 3800) 100 ohm potentiometer (Tocos)
Mid (double Sonion 2800) 2x150 uH inductor in series and 1.5 uF cap parallel (2nd low pass)
High (TWFK + WBFK?) 3x 150 uH and 1x 100 uH in parallel, 10uF and 6.8uF cap in series (4th high pass),

Freqphase:
Low 3 cm tube
Mid 3.5 cm tube
High: 6 cm tube
All together with 1 cm steel tubing.
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After war...
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Sep 18, 2017 at 5:13 AM Post #6,813 of 15,989
Could you elaborate more on how you've implemented the modules at the nozzle level?

I am also able to see on the JH shells the carbon fiber fabric. You must have battled quite hard to dismantle the components from the glue and resin.
 
Sep 18, 2017 at 5:28 AM Post #6,814 of 15,989
JH Audio Layla DIY Custom reshell

My plans:

- Make CIEM from universal
- Replacing JH Audio 4 pin connector for 2 pin connectors
- Bass potentiometer in the shell
- Addition to Apex Module

Plans have succeeded. The sound stage is wider, the music does not bother. M15 is no longer a natural bass, but M20 is perfect.

The JH Audio iems building quality is horrible!

On left side, in crossower the 3 pieses 150 uH inductors had a resistance of 14.5 ohms and 7.5 ohms on the right. Therefore, left inductor amount (3 inductors in series) was 43.5 ohms and the right was 22.5 ohms. This was the case with the mid crossower.
Therefore, the sound was completely semi-sided

Layla crossover structure:

Low (double Sonion 3800) 100 ohm potentiometer (Tocos)
Mid (double Sonion 2800) 2x150 uH inductor in series and 1.5 uF cap parallel (2nd low pass)
High (TWFK + WBFK?) 3x 150 uH and 1x 100 uH in parallel, 10uF and 6.8uF cap in series (4th high pass),

Freqphase:
Low 3 cm tube
Mid 3.5 cm tube
High: 6 cm tube
All together with 1 cm steel tubing.

After war...



How about the damper ? What color for the Low, Mid and High ?? Thanks !!
 
Sep 18, 2017 at 10:10 AM Post #6,818 of 15,989
It's not yellow, this is green daper. I think the photo color is wrong.
But in the double Sonion 3800 (right in the opening) there was a brown damper stuffing.
I have a picture of the mid-damper ... it's just as colorful as a low damper.
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Sep 19, 2017 at 3:07 AM Post #6,820 of 15,989
JH Audio Layla DIY Custom reshell

My plans:

- Make CIEM from universal
- Replacing JH Audio 4 pin connector for 2 pin connectors
- Bass potentiometer in the shell
- Addition to Apex Module

Plans have succeeded. The sound stage is wider, the music does not bother. M15 is no longer a natural bass, but M20 is perfect.

The JH Audio iems building quality is horrible!

On left side, in crossower the 3 pieses 150 uH inductors had a resistance of 14.5 ohms and 7.5 ohms on the right. Therefore, left inductor amount (3 inductors in series) was 43.5 ohms and the right was 22.5 ohms. This was the case with the mid crossower.
Therefore, the sound was completely semi-sided

Layla crossover structure:

Low (double Sonion 3800) 100 ohm potentiometer (Tocos)
Mid (double Sonion 2800) 2x150 uH inductor in series and 1.5 uF cap parallel (2nd low pass)
High (TWFK + WBFK?) 3x 150 uH and 1x 100 uH in parallel, 10uF and 6.8uF cap in series (4th high pass),

Freqphase:
Low 3 cm tube
Mid 3.5 cm tube
High: 6 cm tube
All together with 1 cm steel tubing.

After war...




Nice tear down! Are you sure there are inductors inside? What are the sound duct junctions made of?
 
Sep 19, 2017 at 1:35 PM Post #6,821 of 15,989
Nice tear down! Are you sure there are inductors inside? What are the sound duct junctions made of?
Indeed there are inductors ... Harvey often uses 150 uH inductors (151, 151J) or a high 4th high pass filter with 100 uH inductors (101)

The reshell internal photo is the first master case, here I replaced the inductor with the resistor (the middle 2nd low pass filter resistor in the shell, as a 50 ohm potentiometer.)
In the final shell, there are already some inductors.

Inductors:
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Mid low pass filter
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High pass filter
 

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