[Sound Eq]

It was a huge jump between Gustard R26 and May...

yeah me and roi, and another friend had that meeting, and yes the may is a total different league than r26

 

[Sound Eq]

Do you recall what tubes the Envy had?

@roiosdona he answered that above, i did not have time to test stock tubes, but roi told me his tubes almost cost over 2.5k usd

 

[SAMCL]

@roiosdona he answered that above, i did not have time to test stock tubes, but roi told me his tubes almost cost over 2.5k usd

Crazy, i didnt know tubes are that expensive.

 

[idairyou]

Crazy, i didnt know tubes are that expensive.

300b tubes get to the 2k range.

For NOS Western Electric 300b they tend to start at 9k to 10k and go up from there.

 

[dfiled]

If I needed to be reminded why I walked away from tubes this thread has done the job.

 

[dfiled]

always amazes me how subjective these things are...I own the lcd-4z and have had the 4 as well and I have the susvara and to me there is no comparison I like the 4z and 4 but susvara is in another league IMHO

I don’t actually disagree that the susvara wins on the technicalities and timbre but for me bass slam and macrodynamics are very important. IMHO the lcd-4 wins hands down for those qualities.

 

[roiosdona]

I don’t actually disagree that the susvara wins on the technicalities and timbre but for me bass slam and macrodynamics are very important. IMHO the lcd-4 wins hands down for those qualities.

I haven't heard LCD-4, but Caldera with the Feliks Audio Envy were amazing... I preferred them over the Susvaras.

 

[incredulousity]

300b tubes get to the 2k range.

For NOS Western Electric 300b they tend to start at 9k to 10k and go up from there.

NOS WE probably sound amazing, but are truly for those who have money to burn. The current production ones are great, as are Elrogs and AN4300E. Something for every taste.

 

[Rayon]

NOS WE probably sound amazing, but are truly for those who have money to burn. The current production ones are great, as are Elrogs and AN4300E. Something for every taste.

“Some men just want to watch the money burn.”
- Alfred "WE 300b" Pennyworth

 

[idairyou]

NOS WE probably sound amazing, but are truly for those who have money to burn. The current production ones are great, as are Elrogs and AN4300E. Something for every taste.

I've got on the Elrog wait list. About another 8 weeks.

I've tried a few 6SN7 and so far, my favorites have been CBS Hythron 'Bad Boys'

We'll see if that changes when I get the Elrogs.

 

[gammi]

If I needed to be reminded why I walked away from tubes this thread has done the job.

My Willsenton R300 is one of my favorite amps, I sometimes even prefer it to the Bliss. It's $1,000 new and uses 300b tubes.
Its bigger brother, the R800i is still only $2,000 but puts out 48wpc instead of the R300's 8wpc.

Both are excellent and I believe should get more love being used as headphone amps.

Ever since I started using speaker amps I started wondering why we fuss about with these measly headphone amps. Even if you're only drawing, say 5W, a 50W speaker amp is likely going to drive that current faster (slew rate) than a 10W headphone amp. This makes the attack/impact better and music sounds more dynamic. Bliss is one of the few headphone amps that puts up a fight in this realm but that's because it's basically built like a 2ch speaker amp anyway, drawing like 60W.

 

[SAMCL]

Yep I'm aware, I put feet below them! The bottom definitely gets HOT!

Looks good! Mine is on the way. By the way, where to buy the isolation feet and a small stand?

 

[SLC1966]

How would you describe the effect of Serene between May and Bliss? I read earlier that you liked it between May and Ferrum stack. I've lately used Freya+ in active SS buffer mode and like it a lot. I've started wondering what other SS preamps with different topologies would do.

The effect is minimal if anything. Serene is so clean and really adds nothing. But it takes nothing away for the wonderful sound of Bliss and May together. Serene allows me to easily use May with 2ch amp and Bliss without using a switch. Serene did seem to add something to Ferrum stack but that "something" was probably allowing Ferrum Oor to be used in Bypass mode. I have not tried using a tube pre but that seems like the best way to add flavor to the setup.

 

[devilboy]

Looks good! Mine is on the way. By the way, where to buy the isolation feet and a small stand?

Maybe try these instead? I think they're taller.
Music Direct.

 

[antdroid]

@SAMCL

The feet I used in the pic are these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09L41X1JR

The stand isnt small haha. It is this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09XMF2RPB