Wow, I've missed a lot today, going to work and whatnot like a square
I really like the direction this thread is taking: more of a commentary/ reminiscence on old school/"good" rap. For me, old school is basically early nineties stuff. To be completely honest, though, I haven't really gone digging through all of that era. I have Biggie, Pac (yea, their both a little later but I still consider that old school), Dre, Mobb Deep, Erik B & Rakim, Nas... and probably a few others along those lines from that era in Hip-Hop. Reading this thread I can see that theres a lot that I have been missing.
I never really gave Tribe or De La Soul a chance, and maybe I should. I'd like to know what you guys feel are these groups best albums, so I know what to buy :-D
As for the Kanye commentary, I agree that he is doin some pretty great stuff with hip-hop, though it's not like he's a rap legend or anything. His flow does leave something to be desired, but his beats are sometimes just....You know how he talks about jigga takin off his bucket hat, puttin over his face and just goin "OOUUUUUUUUUUGH!" (pronounced like the ew in threw"), well, thats just perfect cuz I feel that way sometimes too. The beat on Lucifer, really?!
As far as Outkast, I think I need to expand my collection. I only own Stankonia and that double album they did. I agree that Andre has some ill flow, but I haven't went out and found em yet. So you say ATLiens is tight? I feel like sometimes I'm biased against certain albums for stupid reasons: ATLiens, i though it was a dumb name so i never checked it out; The roots, my roomate played me some of their stuff, i think it was underground, and I didn't really like it cuz a) it was burned and b) the quality was bad, so I never gave them a chance; etc, etc... I know, its a damn shame, so I need to guys to slap me out of it and tell me the "must haves" for all these great artists (cuz as much as I'd like to, I can't go out and by everyone's whole collection)
So keep the great commentaries coming!!!