High End Cables Thread (digital, analog, power)
Oct 20, 2022 at 7:47 AM Post #466 of 871
^Any pricing info to share?
Oups, the wrong question... :sleepy: :k701smile:

There is no range of products (like entry, medium, prestige range...). Just one model per destination. True high end, only the best :

XLR = about 4000$ / 1m
RCA = about 2600$ /1m
Loudspeakers = about 4000$ / 2 x 2.20m
Digital AES-EBU = about 1900$ /2.2m
Phono = about 2000$ (RCA-RCA /1.2m) or 2300$ (Din-RCA /1.2m)
Power = about 2600$ /2m
Power distribution = about 5000$/ 6 plugs

I know. :rolling_eyes:

But absolute weapons, "problem" solved. From what I can tell, it's THE Everest (full set).

 
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Oct 20, 2022 at 7:56 AM Post #467 of 871
Oups, the wrong question... :sleepy: :k701smile:

There is no range of products (like entry, medium, prestige range...). Just one model per destination. True high end, only the best :

XLR = about 4000$ / 1m
RCA = about 2600$ /1m
Loudspeakers = about 4000$ / 2 x 2.20m
Digital AES-EBU = about 1900$ /2.2m
Phono = about 2000$ (RCA-RCA /1.2m) or 2300$ (Din-RCA /1.2m)
Power = about 2600$ /2m
Power distribution = about 5000$/ 6 plugs

I know. :rolling_eyes:

But absolute weapons, "problem" solved. From what I can tell, it's THE Everest (full set).

For those prices they should provide way more info about the cables, materials etc.
 
Oct 20, 2022 at 8:20 AM Post #468 of 871
For those prices they should provide way more info about the cables, materials etc.
Interconnect and digital = pure silver, cryo, advanced litz coaxial...
Loudspeakers = pure copper (102 ssc quality, best in the world with the Nikko/Acrolink/Mexcell corp 7N DUCC), litz, cryo, etc.
Power = ze same.

Pure silver for interconnect, digital and phono cables and pure copper for the rest, because these were the best subjective results (timbres and tones textures, weight, precision... realism at the very end).

Plugs are made with pure solid silver (rca), pur solid copper (made to measure) for electrical connectors, Pure solid copper gold plated for XLR connectors, pur copper 102 ssc for loudspeakers forks.

No solder for the power cords and power distributors construction (only high pressure crimping). Gold-silver solder for the others cables. I have a doubt about the loudspeakers cable (solder or crimping :slight_frown: ).

In fact, Stéphane Missakian does not communicate too much about all these components, because he sells a result.

But here is a quick summary of what we are talking about. Also the cables are only made on demand.
 
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Oct 20, 2022 at 6:29 PM Post #469 of 871
Question for those with tube amps.

What is everyone running from the DAC to your tube amp? I've been thinking for the longest time that I should buy a Shunyata Research Delta or Sigma RCA(both copper)to run from my DAC into my ALO Studio Six.

But now that the time has come, Im wondering if a silver RCA cable from the DAC onto the tube amp would be better. My new thinking is maybe getting every drop of voltage and resolution after the digital to analog conversion then into the tube amp would yield a bit more bandwidth and detail. BTW, I'm not starved for detail as my DAC offers plenty. Just wondering about getting a cleaner signal into the tube amp.

Any thoughts on the silver vs. copper thing in this specific area? DAC to tube amp.

Thanks

:k701smile:
 
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Oct 20, 2022 at 10:09 PM Post #470 of 871
Question for those with tube amps.

What is everyone running from the DAC to your tube amp? I've been thinking for the longest time that I should buy a Shunyata Research Delta or Sigma RCA(both copper)to run from my DAC into my ALO Studio Six.

But now that the time has come. Im wondering if a silver RCA cable from the DAC onto the tube amp would be better. My new thinking is maybe getting every drop of voltage and resolution after the digital to analog conversion then into the tube amp would yield a bit more bandwidth and detail. BTW, I'm not starved for detail as my DAC offers plenty. Just wondering about getting a cleaner signal into the tube amp.

Any thoughts on the silver vs. copper thing in this specific area? DAC to tube amp.

Thanks

:k701smile:
I'm running Oyaide AZ-910 (silver RCA) with results that suit my listening preferences. It provides me with improved dynamics and speed (not really noticeable if not familiar with my system or tracks, but it's there and I like what I hear).
 
Oct 20, 2022 at 10:18 PM Post #471 of 871
I'm running Oyaide AZ-910Oyaide AZ-910 (silver RCA) with results that suit my listening preferences. It provides me with improved dynamics and speed (not really noticeable if not familiar with my system or tracks, but it's there and I like what I hear).

That's exactly the one I was thinking about. I use a Oyaide Continental 5s for my USB cable and love it.

I feel like Oyaide AZ-910 would be a great RCA cable to test out. I also believe they offer ALOT of quality for the money! 💰


OK definitely leaning in this direction now.
 
Oct 20, 2022 at 10:24 PM Post #472 of 871
I use Double Helix Prion4S interconnects. I also use Double Helix BNC cables between my Clock and DAC.
 
Oct 20, 2022 at 10:36 PM Post #473 of 871
I use Double Helix Prion4S interconnects. I also use Double Helix BNC cables between my Clock and DAC.

It looks like the Double Helix Prion 4S is silver as well.

Okay so maybe I'm on the right path with my thinking. Silver might just be an answer for this specific connection for me, from DAC to tube amp.
 
Oct 20, 2022 at 11:28 PM Post #474 of 871
I use Chord Co Signature Plus between my DAC and valve pre, as well as between my pre and solid-state power amp. They use silver conductors and present a punchy, hewn-from-solid sound. Not warm by any means but not bright or strident.
 
Oct 20, 2022 at 11:43 PM Post #475 of 871
I'm using Tellurium Q Black Diamond XLRs between the dac/pre and pre/power. quite happy with those. I could have lived with Cardas Clear Reflection XLRs but curiosity got the better of me.

I have a set of JPS Superconductor 4 XLRs between my Wavelight and WA33 and it is definitely one of my favourite interconnects. oddly, the impact in sq with the JPS in that position can't be replicated in my other systems.. so that's the only place I want to keep it in.

I just picked up a DHC Prion4 headphone cable and I think it is one of the better cables I've tried. definitely prefer it over my AC palladium cable. am wondering if I should give a set of Prion4 XLRs a go in the future..
 
Oct 21, 2022 at 2:29 AM Post #477 of 871
Long time ago, the Oyaide AR-910 (XLR version) was mine = good cable. :beerchug:

It was replaced by an O2A Quintessence Sublime and then, this one by a Murmure Audio Ultimate (now Absolute = last version), permanently.

Best silver interconnect cables... and interconnect cables... I know = Murmure Audio Ultimate/Absolute and... Klinger Favre interconnect cable (http://klinger-favre.blogspot.com/2005/07/cbles-de-prcision.html), a less expensive alternative. But the first one is on top.

Klinger Favre is a high end mastering specialist (all gears, except sources, and acoustics, made to measure).
 
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Oct 21, 2022 at 7:38 AM Post #479 of 871
Looks like DAS 4.1, the interconnect version of Furutech's DPS 4.1 & DSS 4.1 is out; around $300/meter plus terminations. I've been really happy with DSS4.1, so might have to give them a shot someday.
I can vouch for the DPS4.1, I use a MCRU custom and it's hard to beat for the price. Absolutely wonderous how a "simple" power cord allows you extract that little bit extra % in sound quality from the system
 
Oct 21, 2022 at 8:12 AM Post #480 of 871
Question for those with tube amps.

What is everyone running from the DAC to your tube amp? I've been thinking for the longest time that I should buy a Shunyata Research Delta or Sigma RCA(both copper)to run from my DAC into my ALO Studio Six.

But now that the time has come, Im wondering if a silver RCA cable from the DAC onto the tube amp would be better. My new thinking is maybe getting every drop of voltage and resolution after the digital to analog conversion then into the tube amp would yield a bit more bandwidth and detail. BTW, I'm not starved for detail as my DAC offers plenty. Just wondering about getting a cleaner signal into the tube amp.

Any thoughts on the silver vs. copper thing in this specific area? DAC to tube amp.

Thanks

:k701smile:

I've been down the cable route across power, usb, speaker, interconnect and ethernet. Even if you get the perfect cable set-up, as soon as you introduce another cable it will change the sound of your system.

Start with a superb quality power cable. I recommend the Oyaide TUNAMI GPX – R V2. It's extremely affordable given Japanese yen weakness. It comes with high-end connectors as well. Only downside is it's stiff.

If you're streaming, have your thought of ethernet cables? I've found SOtM's 50cm ethernet cables do a remarkable job, particularly the black and light grey to adjust sound. They're not too expensive at around USD $150 each. If I want detailed sound, I would use SOtM black 50cm -> Baaske MI1005 -> Supra Cat 8 ethernet cable. If you're after neutral, then use the SOtM light grey 50cm. I use the Supra Cat 8 ethernet for longer runs given it's not expensive and doesn't degrade sound quality.
 
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