Hifiman Sundara (HE400i upgraded, around $500)
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80% thinner diaphragm than the HE400i's, kick out around Oct. No clear photo due to the dark-lighted circumstance.
 
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Don't forget that HE560 is $499 now, so the new kid had to be better or
I was referring more to the fallout/alienation between Hifiman owner, Fang, and pretty much everyone else on Head Fi.

He pretty much destroyed his base in America.
 
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From Hifiman's weibo

Translation:
"Newly designed headband"
"The headphone is made completely in metal"
"Diaphragm thickness is 20% of HE400i"
"Price will be around 500USD"
"More info upcoming in October"
 
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lol, Its the reason why I never buy new hifiman headphone. Good new for me and other new buyers tho

owners hate their gears becoming so cheap. But all the other buyers love it lol
 
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Can anyone translate that?
1) new headband
2) full metal design
3) new Headphone diaphragm thickness gonna be only 20% of the HE400
4) gonna be around 500USD
5) more news coming in OCT

you're wellcome :wink:
 
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Looks like a step in the right direction, HE-400i wasn't a new model introduced this year and this one does not contain plywood.
 
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Why would this create any negative fallout between Hifiman and their customers? I love the fact that they are continually innovating and trying new things/delivering new products to the market. As if the people that are on head-fi don't almost constantly try new ones anyway? If you choose to buy a product new, do you really expect that its the end all be all, or last one the company will release, even in it's price bracket?

"man, it's so annoying that a company keeps releasing new products. I wish they would stop trying to improve their sound, design, build quality, etc."

Yes, we definitely would have been better off if dan stopped at the original mad dog, senn with the older hd5xx's, the lcd2.1, he-5, etc.

Sorry for my tone, rant over.
 
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Here we go again...

The problem was the perceived build quality, V2 version for products that had a Head-fi Beta tester program (HE-1000), fast releasing of new models (6 months for Edition X), and always doubling the price while not improving build quality, just read Head-fi...

THIS particular case (HE-400i replacement) is well done, because HE-400i is not 6 months old, and this model is all metal (no annoying chair plywood) and doesn't costs twice as the model it replaces.
 

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