Hifiman HM-700 impressions

Jul 17, 2014 at 3:15 PM Post #106 of 161
  Hi guys,
 
Anyone tried HM700 with RE-272? For RE-272, which one is better: balanced hm700 or dx50? and is this "balanced" stuff really working? (especially for re-272)


It only works for Balanced wired headphones.  That's why HM700 comes bundled with either RE400B or RE600 (balanced).  Using either of those headphones will give you the best combination of sound details and 3D imaging/separation.  You can use other headphones with either adapter or plugged directly, but it's not going to be the same.  If RE272 is your main headphones pair, probably better get DX50 or X3 (both at $199 on Amazon now).
 
Jul 17, 2014 at 3:19 PM Post #107 of 161
 
It only works for Balanced wired headphones.  That's why HM700 comes bundled with either RE400B or RE600 (balanced).  Using either of those headphones will give you the best combination of sound details and 3D imaging/separation.  You can use other headphones with either adapter or plugged directly, but it's not going to be the same.  If RE272 is your main headphones pair, probably better get DX50 or X3 (both at $199 on Amazon now).

Hm, I thought that 272 come balanced by default. So probably it would be a good idea to get hm 700 for re-272's
 
Jul 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM Post #108 of 161
Oh, didn't know 272 was balanced. If it is, then go with hm700.
 
Jul 17, 2014 at 3:29 PM Post #109 of 161
 
It only works for Balanced wired headphones.  That's why HM700 comes bundled with either RE400B or RE600 (balanced).  Using either of those headphones will give you the best combination of sound details and 3D imaging/separation.  You can use other headphones with either adapter or plugged directly, but it's not going to be the same.  If RE272 is your main headphones pair, probably better get DX50 or X3 (both at $199 on Amazon now).

 
Thanks but RE272 is also balanced by default, so at this point hm700 will be better? Actually I think DX50 is more stabile, support all of formats (especially 24/96 flac which is important for me) but I really wonder hm700 with re272 cause for so many opinions say both of them are shining when using as balanced and it's looking like they can be perfect..
 
  Hm, I thought that 272 come balanced by default. So probably it would be a good idea to get hm 700 for re-272's

 
Yes, re272 come balanced by default.. If somebody can say "yes dx50 is more stabile but hm700 balanced output kills when it comes sound" I will buy but I'm not sure about that, cause if hm700 balanced output is on par with dx50's HO, buying dx50 will be more logical
 
Jul 17, 2014 at 4:27 PM Post #110 of 161
   
Yes, re272 come balanced by default.. If somebody can say "yes dx50 is more stabile but hm700 balanced output kills when it comes sound" I will buy but I'm not sure about that, cause if hm700 balanced output is on par with dx50's HO, buying dx50 will be more logical

 
Nowdays, a functioning 272 is so rare that probably only you and a small bunch of people can try it on 700 and provide some impressions... I've never seen anyone talking about using 252, 262, 272 or re-zero balanced on hm-700. I've even tried to get a used pair of older balanced re's, but failed to find any. In case of 400's going balanced on HM700 has clear benefits to my ears (my GF owns normal re-400, so I did a comparsion)
 
Jul 17, 2014 at 4:41 PM Post #111 of 161
   
Nowdays, a functioning 272 is so rare that probably only you and a small bunch of people can try it on 700 and provide some impressions... I've never seen anyone talking about using 252, 262, 272 or re-zero balanced on hm-700. I've even tried to get a used pair of older balanced re's, but failed to find any. In case of 400's going balanced on HM700 has clear benefits to my ears (my GF owns normal re-400, so I did a comparsion)


I can also confirm, since I have HM700 and both RE400B and regular RE400 (w/included adapter).  The details, the soundstage width, the separation/layering and imaging is superior with RE400B in comparison to a standard RE400.
 
Jul 17, 2014 at 4:46 PM Post #112 of 161
   
Nowdays, a functioning 272 is so rare that probably only you and a small bunch of people can try it on 700 and provide some impressions... I've never seen anyone talking about using 252, 262, 272 or re-zero balanced on hm-700. I've even tried to get a used pair of older balanced re's, but failed to find any. In case of 400's going balanced on HM700 has clear benefits to my ears (my GF owns normal re-400, so I did a comparsion)

 
Thanks for answer. Yes, there's not so many re272 around, so not so many people can talk about this balanced couple. On side, some says "hm700's BO can beat dx50 or x3" and other side some says "re272 should drive balanced to shine".. and other side I'm thinking "not so many formats supported, no output for unbalanced headphones, ancient fw.." is it really worth? Who knows!
 
Jul 17, 2014 at 6:29 PM Post #116 of 161
 
I can also confirm, since I have HM700 and both RE400B and regular RE400 (w/included adapter).  The details, the soundstage width, the separation/layering and imaging is superior with RE400B in comparison to a standard RE400.

 
Actually one of my friend said re-400 benefited from balanced hm700 minimal when compared re262, re272 and re600.. he said especially re272 is the one that benefited from balanced hm700. After he used hm700 with re272, he sold his re262, re400, dx50 and rocoo p. That's why I'm looking for anyone if experienced same thing. For example Clieos said the exact opposite about benefiting from balanced output, according to him re400 benefited from balanced (hm700) more than other iems
 
Aug 27, 2014 at 11:03 AM Post #117 of 161
Guys, can you tell me where I can find the latest HM 700 firmware? And what is the latest firmware version? I just ordered the device and I want to update when it comes... Thanks ;)
 
Aug 27, 2014 at 1:04 PM Post #118 of 161
Guys, can you tell me where I can find the latest HM 700 firmware? And what is the latest firmware version? I just ordered the device and I want to update when it comes... Thanks
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I think it already comes with the latest firmware.  Don't recall them updating it after the release, but you can always check at http://hifiman.com/
 
Aug 28, 2014 at 5:26 AM Post #119 of 161
Thanks, mate
 
Oct 16, 2014 at 1:19 PM Post #120 of 161
I have an issue, i'm at the edge of buying a new DAP, and i don't know what to choose. My options are ibasso dx50 or 90, fiio x5, and these, but i don't know what to choose. I know the ibasso can have up to 128 gb of memory, but i was also interested in the re400. The hm700 looked like a nice deal, but i'm scared i wont be able to play flac
 

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