[koiloco]

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Well I haven't had the Emotiva that long so I don't want to draw any hasty conclusions.  However, I will say that so far, the low end does seem improved on the Emotiva.

The bass should at least have more energy and extension behind it.  Cleaner/tighter more definition are of course other attributes to look for, at least for me.  Just louder/stronger bass is not the answer and why I am testing out the Mini-X.

 

[M-13]

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I am just hoping that I will hear the difference between the E09K and the Emotiva   Otherwise, it's time for me stop and get out this hobby cuz obviously I've hit what you pros call it?  "end game"?

and of course, save myself lots of money.

Yeah the E09K is surprising nice. It's a nice improvement from the old E09. I think Jason at Schiit said it best when he said if you build a amp with op-amps and run them within spec you get a very clean sound and crazy awesome distortion numbers (not to mention absolute black silent background). The Emotiva is an all discrete design, like the Magni/Asgard/Lyr/Soloist., etc... I think the magic of the discrete design is that the music sounds more analog and less digital, although it's dirtier/grainier. Over time I've come to appreciate discrete designs and prefer them and now totally understand what Jason was talking about.
 
Like Zoom says. Give it some time when you get the Emotiva. I would say, focus when the music gets complex and multiple things are happening at the same time at all frequency extremes. This is when your HE-500 will use the extra juice(current) and the Emotiva will show you that tight/nimble control of the drivers. It won't lose any dynamic range at the bass or treble and reproduce everything smoothly the edges of attack won't be blunted at all.
 
Plus I felt like there was a small period of burn-in for the Emotiva. Maybe 24~48 hours, after which point it sounded stable/best. Not that it sounded terrible out of the box or anything.

 

[koiloco]

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Yeah the E09K is surprising nice. It's a nice improvement from the old E09. I think Jason at Schiit said it best when he said if you build a amp with op-amps and run them within spec you get a very clean sound and crazy awesome distortion numbers (not to mention absolute black silent background). The Emotiva is an all discrete design, like the Magni/Asgard/Lyr/Soloist., etc... I think the magic of the discrete design is that the music sounds more analog and less digital, although it's dirtier/grainier. Over time I've come to appreciate discrete designs and prefer them and now totally understand what Jason was talking about.
 
Like Zoom says. Give it some time when you get the Emotiva. I would say, focus when the music gets complex and multiple things are happening at the same time at all frequency extremes. This is when your HE-500 will use the extra juice(current) and the Emotiva will show you that tight/nimble control of the drivers. It won't lose any dynamic range at the bass or treble and reproduce everything smoothly the edges of attack won't be blunted at all.
 
Plus I felt like there was a small period of burn-in for the Emotiva. Maybe 24~48 hours, after which point it sounded stable/best. Not that it sounded terrible out of the box or anything.

M-13,
This is your best post so far about the Emotiva.

  especially when you said the Emotiva would be a little dirtier/grainier (not for bass though) and more analog sounding.   This is right up my favorite ally when it comes to sound signature
Thank you

 

[M-13]

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M-13, This is your best post so far about the Emotiva.

  especially when you said the Emotiva would be a little dirtier/grainier (not for bass though) and more analog sounding.   This is right up my favorite ally when it comes to sound signature
Thank you

This post is nothing compared to my tampon post in the LCD-2 thread. My finest moment...

 (I almost felt like Purrin [creator of the toilet-pants mod for the LCD-3])

 

[h4mm3r 0f th0r]

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Yeah the E09K is surprising nice. It's a nice improvement from the old E09.

But both amps are exactly the same with no sonic differences... the only difference is the lack of the 3.5mm post and the change in the dock for e17 etc... nothing more...

 

[M-13]

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But both amps are exactly the same with no sonic differences... the only difference is the lack of the 3.5mm post and the change in the dock for e17 etc... nothing more...

Umm... okay man. I've had both. And you?

 

[h4mm3r 0f th0r]

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Umm... okay man. I've had both. And you?

yup... got both too... so??

 

[davidsh]

Repost tampon post here please (!)

 

[M-13]

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yup... got both too... so??

Good for you man. I disagree.

 

[h4mm3r 0f th0r]

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Good for you man. I disagree.

YUP you do... just pointing out that there isn't supposed to be a difference as far as fiio say and others too... what you experience is a called a placebo

 

[M-13]

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YUP you do... just pointing out that there isn't supposed to be a difference as far as fiio say and others too... what you experience is a called a placebo

Again disagree. They sound different to me and it's not very subtle. (IMO of course)

 

[h4mm3r 0f th0r]

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Again disagree. They sound different to me and it's not very subtle. (IMO of course)

Lets agree to disagree then... peace

 

[eke2k6]

Here's my question about the Emotiva and it's gobs of power. Why do you need that much power to drive the HE-500?

 

[davidsh]

Good question. Headroom some would say, but that isn't really an explanation. Some would might say that it can drive the hp's with more authority and control. That doesn't really explain much either. To me at least.

 

[koiloco]

Big head...room always gives more pleasure depending on who you ask