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$1379 not including tax.
$2399 HE-1000.
Both excellent deals. Email them for updates on stock
Buysonic is not an authorized Hifiman dealer, so no warranty!
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Buysonic is not an authorized Hifiman dealer, so no warranty!
tuna47
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Boy I have never been on a page with so many haters or people that think all cans sound the same
I even had the akg k702 which half the world hated and it wasn't nearly this bad
The price is high that is my only negative of these ,but to say they sound like the 400 is weird what next, wait I know my kids Beats sound the same no better
I even had the akg k702 which half the world hated and it wasn't nearly this bad
The price is high that is my only negative of these ,but to say they sound like the 400 is weird what next, wait I know my kids Beats sound the same no better
I'm also glad that you and Grizzly are standing by your opinions. Each person has a different taste for sound signatures. Also different power sources, amps, dacs, etc etc. It's too bad they didn't work out for you. I've got the lot of all the fancy headphones and think quite highly of the HEX.
having the HEK, HD800, LCD2F, HE560, PM3, THX00 all to compare to back to back. Well, the HEX deserves a worth title of respect. I would hate to think you had a faulty pair of HEX. But it's possible. I know everything Hifiman releases a new model, it often has many glitches and issues to work out. The HEK did, the HE560 surely did!
I wish people would disclose in detail the source they were using for their reviews.
dirty power, faulty wires are often the cause of a less black brackground or as some say...grey... the thought of that sounds terrible to me. As if they were a pair of skull candy headphones. beats etc...
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http://www.hifiman.com/dealers
Search: SonicElectronix.
Buysonic has always been outstanding to deal with.
You haven't seen the HD700 or K812 threads lol.
This is fairly civil.
Thanks for the kind words
I sure hope we didn't get faulty pairs.
Anyways, that's a problem that's prevalent a lot.
For threads like these, there's an atmosphere where people often don't feel comfortable giving their honest opinions.
And I can't blame them.
There's a lot of backlash.
Yeah, I was surprised at the intensity of this thread. Especially since I tend to agree, in many ways and on a lot of things, with some of the strongest critics of the HEX's on this thread.
To make it even more interesting for me, I also have and love the 400i's, and consider them the best per-cost headphone I have ever heard, as well as the best all-arounders, I can't wait to get the HEX's and hear them myself. I will focus closely on a comparison between them, my Primes, and the 400i's.
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Here is a link to the SonicElectronix Hifiman product listing and prices:
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/cat_m1268_i1808_hifiman-all-headphones.html
to stand by one's opinion is a respectable thing, as long as it doesn't involve discrediting others, it adds to the discussion and provides many insightful impressions for someone reading this thread
it also has a negative aftertaste if 3 out of the next 10 posts (numbers are symbolic only) is all about basking in the glory of sticking to one's own opinion....that's not about integrity, it's just about attention
it also has a negative aftertaste if 3 out of the next 10 posts (numbers are symbolic only) is all about basking in the glory of sticking to one's own opinion....that's not about integrity, it's just about attention
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I don't understand.
Buysonic is synonymous with SonicElectronix.
We established that in the deals thread a while back.
You can message them to confirm that you'll get the warranty.
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Hifiman requires a copy of the invoice that they were purchased from an authorized dealer, or there is no warranty!
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Thanks for the kind words
I sure hope we didn't get faulty pairs.
Anyways, that's a problem that's prevalent a lot.
For threads like these, there's an atmosphere where people often don't feel comfortable giving their honest opinions.
And I can't blame them.
There's a lot of backlash.
I agree with you on the backlash. It's become a really strange trend.
Instead of discussing each headphone and how we perceive their sound relative to other headphones, it's become threads where people defend their headphones and talk about how good they are, almost to an emotional level. As if their headphone's honor has somehow been damaged if someone says something negative about them. The backlash is so overdone and blown out of proportion.
Dont care about those ear-mobs and they already tried a few times so nothing new
Here's my hex ($1800) vs. He400i ($400) comparison :
same box
same headband
same plastic gymbals
same metal used for cups
same connectors & overly stiff cables (he400i only comes with the short one)
same drivers. Admitedly this one is only an assumption based on hfman's statement that (approx): "hex is not using the nano driver but a tweaked older one". Afaik the only 'older one' is the one used in the 400 & 560 models. Any clarification from hfman here would be highly welcome!
Now I'm just very curious if the hex & he400i also sound similar .. or even same. Many thx in advance if you can do a quick SQ compare. It shouldnt be very hard since you did a 560 comparison and those two sound veeery similar (imho, the 560 is largely a 400i with wood cups & box)
wow, that surely is a lot of assuming going on in this list of comparisons.
The box... is... a box. nothing to do with the headphones.
the headband is sythetic leather with a nice stitch. Proven to be reliable and durable in previous models. very ideal for a headphone they plan to market as a potential mobile use headphone. The HEK's headband is heavier, yet with the holes it breathes well at least.
The plastic gimbals are ideal when saving weight. The HEK was all metal and ended it being a heavy headphone. Who cares? well, I happen to have a neck condition and the less weight on my head, the better. Audezes have never been an option for me since they are insanely over weight. I admit the gimbals suck, as I returned my HEX to get a new pair as the gimbal was faulty on the left ear, it would push in all the way. Hifiman's customer service was excellent and had no issue with fighting to get a new pair. I know the HE560's had lots of little issues but hifiman stands behind their products. No worries. Every company has issues, it's how their customer service is that matters to me.
The metal for the cups? I assume you mean the black chrome. That's directly correlated to the 400i being the cost efficient option vs the HE560...similar headphones, but not. Save some money, avoid wood cups and highly refined driver. Get the black chromed version, less ideal driver and save money with the 400i. Good marketing and a way to distinguish tiers of their headphones. 400i and 560 is the same goes for HEX and HEK or how they wanted to market the headphones. I actually like the black chrome look. It's sleek! The HEK is a bit gaudy looking, albeit I don't mind having one at home for use as I don't care what anyone thinks of me when I wear them. But they are flashy in comparison to the HEX.
I've owned the 560's and am very familiar with them. I don't think they sound anything like the HEK or HEX.
The drivers in the HEX are much larger than the 400 or 560.
I agree it's stiff. It also creates a poor sonic signature in my opinion. Cable believers or not, try a draug2 and you will hear more than a subtle difference, but a significant improvement with many headphones.
the cable used in the 560, HEX and HEK are the same type...crystalline. Sadly, this cable is crap. The ends of the braided cloth material starts to fray at the 2.5mm base. Warranty claimed on a new pair! Either way, I replace my cables with Norne Audio cables - always. I've tried many other companies like moon audio, forza, whiplash, artemis, lavricables and a few others. All my gear is typically Norne audio for headphones, or DHC, and different brands for power cables, digital cables, etc, SR, DHlabs,Siltech,PSaudio,Pangea etc. No cable has ever actually impressed me other than Norne cables with headphones specifically. Honestly, otherwise, cables are a waste of money if you expect large gains. They are money well spent if you know what you're doing and how to pair things well.
Drivers - you admit you are assuming. I need to say nothing.
The HE560's always made an insane claim of being able to be powered by a smart phone. If what they mean was it will make noise when you plug it in...sure. It can be powered by a smart phone. The quality of the sound was unacceptable, absolutely garbage in fact. I tried so many different amps before I found an amp that could do the 560's justice. They are NOT efficient in the slightest. In fact, I almost send them back on warranty because they were so picky about amps. The specs they advertise I swear were just guestimates. Each pair varies quite a bit imho. I've heard 3 different pairs and they all sound significantly different, as they were compared all on the same system and enviroment. just different cables, and my pair had a grille mod. The stock crystalline cable is garbage in my opinion. I won't get into that now. The HEX can be powered by the Iphone6, and I have...albeit it's "good" and it's not that it doesn't get loud enough. It's just that it doesn't sound fast enough and clean enough. I ended up ordering a Mojo and was waiting a little while for it before it shipped. just the other day I decided to cancel the order as I hear too many mixed reviews on it. I will be listening to one soon as I'll have one on loan. I don't expect to be blown away to be quite honest. But I have ultra high expectations of this Mojo. The HEX scales well imho. It's efficient in the way the HE560's are, yet clearly much more efficient than the HE560. Yet I mean the HEX is like the HE560 in the way that it's picky about sounding it's best on the right amp. Most things are capable of making it sound good. But not with a black background. Sadly I had my fears the HEX would be like other overly sensitive cans. they dont' pair well with certain higher powered amps as a subtle hiss or power buzz can be heard when the volumes are higher. mainly due to a poor amplifier design. The HEX is ultra sensitive like many IEM's. It can pick up this hum, hiss or whatever you want to call it...grey background? But with a super clean source of power, and high end amp...no trace of this hiss or hum will be present.
My setup is from outlet to headphone... Outlet(maestro)>Pangea AC14SE(soon to be Cerious Graphene)>PSAudio p300 A/C regenerator (outlets are SR Teslaplex and Gaofei Rhodium plated Red Copper / blue translucent model)>PSaudio 8gauge Lab cable (cryo'd, Sonar Quest Silver plated Red Copper Connectors)>Audio-GD Master11>HDMI i2s Silver DHLabs cable>Powered by SR Tesla T1 cable >Gustard U12 modded (fed by Paul Hynes sr5 to Paul pang v3 ocxo USB 3.0 card(flawless USB power and source =zero hiss and power noise) LH labs 2g USB cable (crystek 957 crystals/ ackodac 5V regular ah75 1.6uv noise), powered by Teddy Pardo 5v linear power)> Norne Audio Draug2 cable > HEX
The box... is... a box. nothing to do with the headphones.
grizzlybeast
My name is grizzlybeast and I'm an audioholic.
I disclosed what I used in my review. I'm not hating on the hex. Relatively speaking 7,5 is not bad IMO.
What I described in the review was mostly positive. It's a good hp. I'd take it over the drier less balanced he560 just not for the premium.
Sil3nce believes they are veiled.. I don't
He believes the treble extends far but is too dark, I believe the treble is not dark but only extends okay
He believes the bass is too much and muddy, I believe it's spot on in qty but too soft yet still focused but I prefer less decay yet I can hear the textures well.
We both hear an odd but sizeable soundstage
We both think it's only okay in detail retrieval and soft in transients
We both hear things differently and the hex tonal balance is right up my alley but we both agree on its value and overall technical performance for a reason. Because it's not really impressive. Its not a muddy cloudy mess by any means.
I have a zebra power cable to my lps/pulse infinity, with 2g usb cable, have upgraded but simple occ xlr balanced interconnects to my liquid carbon as well as emotiva rca cables...and the lcd 2.1 had a deeper, more vivid image and blacker background on the ifi, the infinity hp out, and lc. It's not my gear. It's the headphones
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What I described in the review was mostly positive. It's a good hp. I'd take it over the drier less balanced he560 just not for the premium.
Sil3nce believes they are veiled.. I don't
He believes the treble extends far but is too dark, I believe the treble is not dark but only extends okay
He believes the bass is too much and muddy, I believe it's spot on in qty but too soft yet still focused but I prefer less decay yet I can hear the textures well.
We both hear an odd but sizeable soundstage
We both think it's only okay in detail retrieval and soft in transients
We both hear things differently and the hex tonal balance is right up my alley but we both agree on its value and overall technical performance for a reason. Because it's not really impressive. Its not a muddy cloudy mess by any means.
I have a zebra power cable to my lps/pulse infinity, with 2g usb cable, have upgraded but simple occ xlr balanced interconnects to my liquid carbon as well as emotiva rca cables...and the lcd 2.1 had a deeper, more vivid image and blacker background on the ifi, the infinity hp out, and lc. It's not my gear. It's the headphones
Typing from phone sry
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How would Hifiman have a level playing field for all of the authorized dealers, if one was allowed to sell at the prices you listed previously? Everyone would be buying from Buysonic, to get the huge discount they offer over the authorized dealers!
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Didn't even know you were on this thread
Good to see you around.
Yeah, that was exactly the point I was trying to make.
As if they're justifying the amount of money they spent on a particular headphone.
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