Headstage Arrow HE: Reviews, Impressions, Perceptions & Sensations
Feb 14, 2011 at 4:08 AM Post #1,831 of 4,123
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Jan is adamant that intellectual property was infringed upon.


I'd still have a rather hard time mustering up the will to give a damn.  I take a rather dim view of "intellectual property" myself.  Did he have an actual patent or something?  I'd think that would have to be a pretty unique amp to merit a patent in this day and age, since AFIK most of the BS is is going on in software patents these days.  They make about as much sense as trying to patent a love song and telling everyone else they can't make love songs any more...
 
Feb 17, 2011 at 5:11 PM Post #1,832 of 4,123


 
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I do have an iPhone 4, but honestly I haven't done much comparing of it with the Arrow against the Sony X with the Arrow. I will do just that in the next few days and report back. 
 
When comparing the X with the iPhone 4 straight from the headphone outs, I can tell you the iPhone is brighter with a bit more air in the treble. But the low end isn't as nice compared to the X. The Sony is more warm and mellow in its sound. I prefer the X when just using it as a player without the amp. 
 
I will give this same comparison a go with the Arrow soon though.
 
 

 

 Thanks, looking forward to your review!!
 
Feb 17, 2011 at 7:10 PM Post #1,833 of 4,123
I got my Arrow some time around last week. Definitely the best thing that has happened to my Shure SE315s. It's not without issues though, two things primarily:
 
The left ear on the SE315s sometimes gets a subtle yet annoying sizzling sound if the bass boost is turned on. Only the left ear, right one is ok. This has never happened with other portal amps I have. I'm not sure yet if this is the fault of the amp or the Shures (defective left ear?) as it happens a bit randomly. Same volume, same track, same EQ settings when played an hour later wont sizzle, so I'm a bit confused with that for now.
 
The auto power-off feature is starting to annoy me. I don't like listening to music very loud, and if a track/musical piece has a prolonged "quiet" section in it, the Arrow sometimes decides that the current music is actually background noise and it should save some power and go to sleep. I've tried to play around with impedance or gain switches to avoid this, but no luck so far. Only solution seems to be to keep the volume above a certain level.
 
Other than that I'm actually quite happy with the Arrow.
 
Feb 17, 2011 at 8:30 PM Post #1,834 of 4,123


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I got my Arrow some time around last week. Definitely the best thing that has happened to my Shure SE315s. It's not without issues though, two things primarily:
 
The left ear on the SE315s sometimes gets a subtle yet annoying sizzling sound if the bass boost is turned on. Only the left ear, right one is ok. This has never happened with other portal amps I have. I'm not sure yet if this is the fault of the amp or the Shures (defective left ear?) as it happens a bit randomly. Same volume, same track, same EQ settings when played an hour later wont sizzle, so I'm a bit confused with that for now.
 
The auto power-off feature is starting to annoy me. I don't like listening to music very loud, and if a track/musical piece has a prolonged "quiet" section in it, the Arrow sometimes decides that the current music is actually background noise and it should save some power and go to sleep. I've tried to play around with impedance or gain switches to avoid this, but no luck so far. Only solution seems to be to keep the volume above a certain level.
 
Other than that I'm actually quite happy with the Arrow.


RE: the "sizzling sound" ... try to replicate it with multiple and different tracks. Use different amps and headphones to isolate which is the culprit. Everything is fallible about electronics so it wouldn't be a revelation if an Arrow amp actually had an issue, nor would it be surprising if it were the headphone. Troubleshoot it and ... good luck.
 
As far as the "quiet" music issue with the amp deciding to power off. Hmmmm, that's a bit strange in the context of my own experience. It doesn't matter if the volume is turned up or not, if I plug in a "hot" input to the arrow, be it playing music or not, it turns on (and in this instance, "hot" means, simply, a powered line in to the Arrow. In fact, I can turn the volume all the way down on the Arrow and it will play until it's batteries die. So that's a strange one, ... intriguing as well. 
 
Hope you get it sorted ... and be sure to bounce these sorts of questions off of Robert at Headstage.com ... despite the rumors, he *will* get back to you ... and, especially if it has to do with a supposed "flaw" in the amp.
 
And regarding all the ghey drama around Robert and Jan and the formers supposed blunder ... deal with it ... designers go through these things ... (little secret? It's how they and others become bad asses!) ... I'm not keen on the details of the past drama but I'm still fairly sickened by it. I mean, just why do you think all the "slim" amps started being released? I'm pretty sure the Arrow was released before them and short of the competitors sneaking in to Robert's home and rifling through his notes? I really can't see any reason why the (coincidentally similar to the Arrow) jet black, "Slim" amp versions would suddenly be a hot topic (just check the Head-fi.org super-porno(tm) commercial news feed that takes up about 800% of our screen real estate when first loading the forum; sorry. Yes, that was me expressing disappointment. LOL).
 
But hey. I'm drunk too. So do pardon.
 
:wink:
 
Rock it.
 
 
Feb 17, 2011 at 9:15 PM Post #1,835 of 4,123
Cheers s1rrah!  Here's to Robert! 
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Feb 20, 2011 at 4:25 PM Post #1,837 of 4,123
Feb 21, 2011 at 7:06 AM Post #1,838 of 4,123
I've finally got home and able to see and hold my Arrow. Now using it through the line-out of my D4 Mamba with the Westone 2. The sound became much fuller. I added a level 1 bass boost. This is a very good pairing in my opinion. The Westone 2 suddenly has become very lively. Lows are more extended with better body and added fullness to the mids.
 
The build quality of the amp is superb. Small size, simple design, and thin. It's great.
 
I will try to use it with the SM3 and JH13 later. But for now, this just made me want to keep my Westone 2. :)
 
Feb 21, 2011 at 12:12 PM Post #1,839 of 4,123
Can I ask how long it took you to receive your amp after you placed your order?  I'm anxiously awaiting mine, which I ordered about a week ago.  Thanks.
 
Steve
 
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I've finally got home and able to see and hold my Arrow. Now using it through the line-out of my D4 Mamba with the Westone 2. The sound became much fuller. I added a level 1 bass boost. This is a very good pairing in my opinion. The Westone 2 suddenly has become very lively. Lows are more extended with better body and added fullness to the mids.
 
The build quality of the amp is superb. Small size, simple design, and thin. It's great.
 
I will try to use it with the SM3 and JH13 later. But for now, this just made me want to keep my Westone 2. :)



 
Feb 21, 2011 at 12:50 PM Post #1,840 of 4,123
I am curious about the wait as well. Before I ordered Robert told me it would ship in a week. I ordered on the 6th and it hasn't shipped yet. I emailed Robert about a possible ETA and he hasn't replied yet. I am really looking forward to getting the amp so I hope it goes out soon!
 
Feb 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM Post #1,841 of 4,123
I ordered mine Dec.21st. I believe it got here around 3 weeks ago. I was away for awhile and wasn't able to go home. So it was only yesterday that I got to see it.
 
Feb 21, 2011 at 9:42 PM Post #1,842 of 4,123
I've had the G3 Arrow for about 10 days or so, and it's time to send the G1 back after comparing the two for a bit.
 
This was out of my transportable rig, which consists of an iMod fed into an oversize Vcap dock, using Monster MD Tribute and Ortofon e-Q7 universal IEMs, Audio-Technica AD2000 and Sennheiser HD540 RII open headphones, and Ultrasone Edition 8 closed headphones. For a/b purposes I went back and forth using the same music, sometimes listening to a single song, and sometimes listening to the entire album. The Cowboy Junkies' Whites off Earth Now is well-recorded enough to highlight the strengths of various listening systems, and it is an album that I am familiar with; most importantly I can listen to it repeatedly without growing sick of it.
 
My settings are typically crossfeed I, with variations in gain and bass boost according to the volume and boost requirements of the headphone. The IEMs definitely liked impedance 0; with the higher-impedance 540s the differences with the impedance settings weren't quite as noticeable but they definitely sounded better with the impedance boosted. The lower-impedance Ed8 and AD2000, like the IEMs, also sound much better to me on the 0 setting. The AD2000 ate up bass boost II on the G3, but surprisingly the 540s did as well so it's pretty clean bass even though there is more of it than on the G1. The Ed8s and the MDs sounded best with limited or no boost, respectively.
 
Most of the audible differences between the two amps are pretty subtle, with the bass boost being the most noticeable. With my Ed8, I was happy enough with the I setting the G1, and could go to stetting II if I wanted more. With the G3 I hear a bigger difference on the I setting, no need for II. With the MD, the result is the same between the G1 and G3, no need for any boost. With the Ortofons I preferred with the II setting, and I appreciated the extra oomph with those. Overall, bass boost setting I on the G3 sounds close to setting II on the G1. I appreciate the enhanced bass boosting ability, but if there is a single drawback to the G3 compared to the G1 it it a little less finesse when you just want to boost the bass a "tad".
 
The G3 does have a higher overall gain setting, as my MDs had more headroom on the I setting with the G3 than with the G1. I didn't try with orthos and don't have my K701's anymore so I didn't really compare the gain between the two Arrows at maximum gain with the high setting. My previous testing with the HE-5 and K701 out of the G1 convinced me that the Arrow had some limitations driving the higher current-demanding headphones, but I will try the G3 with the LCD-2 sometime in the relatively near future.
 
Overall the G3 has a slightly more dynamic, exciting sound. I think that this may have to do with more treble and midrange detail, but also to slightly more forward upper mids. The bass is about the same which is definitely not a bad thing, with the G3 having the improved bass-boosting feature. The G1 is a great amp and I could have been quite happy with it without upgrading, but for me the G3 sounds better overall no doubt about that.
 
The G1 overall has a delicious, slightly warm and quite smooth sound signature, which the G3 manages to improve upon but without losing these positive characteristics. There is a definite, audible difference in overall sound quality and frequency response between the two models, and that made the $25 upgrade worth it alone. Other notable differences between the two Arrows include even better battery life, a completely automatic on/off switch, and a second headphone jack on the G3.
 
Feb 22, 2011 at 1:36 AM Post #1,843 of 4,123
Did anyone who ordered this in Canada get hit with customs?
 
Feb 22, 2011 at 8:56 AM Post #1,845 of 4,123
grokit-
Great impressions. Yours mirror mine very closely regarding the audible differences of the G1 & G3 Arrows. I think the differences are big enough to warrant the upgrade too. I agree about the bass sometimes being a touch too much on +I, and missing that more subtle finesse of the first bass gain on the Gen 1 amp. But that's the only nitpick I can come up with. Perhaps a future Arrow can incorporate a 3 step bass adjustment to still have that finesse at the first setting... or even a continuously adjustable dial like the volume. Now that would be awesome. Did you notice an increase in soundstage width too? When I was doing very attentive A/B'ing between the two I would also notice an increased sense of air and space when going back to the new Arrow. But like you said, each difference is quite subtle. I'm glad the new one maintains the sonic traits of the 1G. 
 

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