Thank you, it helps. My problem though is that I still don't know what kind of sound I prefer, because I only have the Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro (which I like) and nothing else for comparison, and thus I have little experience with what "warm" and "analytical" means. But from what I've read, of the two, I think "warm" would be the safest choice for people not really knowing what they want, so perhaps I'll see if I can get my hands on a 5TX.
Personally I think you would be investing relatively much in your amp vs headphone, since the 5TX is twice as expensive as the Beyerdynamic.. IMO the headphones are always the most important link (and money should be spent accordingly).
Alternatively you could consider a cheaper Fiio model that would work fine in combination with the Beyerdynamic, and save the rest to invest in better headphones when you're ready for an upgrade. To me that would make more sense..
Personally I think you would be investing relatively much in your amp vs headphone, since the 5TX is twice as expensive as the Beyerdynamic.. IMO the headphones are always the most important link (and money should be spent accordingly).
I wholeheartedly agree, I just forgot to mention that the reason I recently registered here is that I'm looking to purchase some CIEMs, possibly the M-Fidelity (formerly Starkey) SA-43. That would put the amp at around half the price of the monitors.
The Beyerdynamics themselves are very forgiving and I've never felt the need for an amp. I briefly tried the Fiio E18 recently, and while there was a difference compared to my normal source (computer sound card), I had to listen for it in order to hear it.
I wholeheartedly agree, I just forgot to mention that the reason I recently registered here is that I'm looking to purchase some CIEMs, possibly the M-Fidelity (formerly Starkey) SA-43. That would put the amp at around half the price of the monitors.
The Beyerdynamics themselves are very forgiving and I've never felt the need for an amp. I briefly tried the Fiio E18 recently, and while there was a difference compared to my normal source (computer sound card), I had to listen for it in order to hear it.
whats the actual delivery situation? Still ongoing mystery? i'm hesitating between this and a Vorzuge Duo….which is so much more money….but vs so much more waiting…...
A friend of mine brought over the 5N. I tried it with my MBAir and HD 800. Wow, very nice brief impression. Unfortunately I only tried it for about 15 minutes.Bottom line is I will be buying one. Put in an order for the 5TX bit after reading your comments below, I am not so sure now.
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If you're trying to make a choice, I would focus on your sound preference. Do you prefer a warm or analytic sound? I have a strong preference for a warm sound so the 5TX is an easy choice. If you prefer a clean, analytic sound go for the 5N, or 5P if your priority is bass.
I think I prefer a less warm sound. Are the parts in the 5TX better than the 5N? As a consumer, you usually want the latest model. Should I not follow that line of thinking here?
A friend of mine brought over the 5N. I tried it with my MBAir and HD 800. Wow, very nice brief impression. Unfortunately I only tried it for about 15 minutes.Bottom line is I will be buying one. Put in an order for the 5TX bit after reading your comments below, I am not so sure now.
I think I prefer a less warm sound. Are the parts in the 5TX better than the 5N? As a consumer, you usually want the latest model. Should I not follow that line of thinking here?
So to start off, Roberts descriptoin of the 5TX claims it is better than the 5N. But he only mentions soundstage, and I'm not sure if it will drastically improve that.. The 5N and 5TX are the same model (5th generation), but with a different board. The 5TX has a tube like board giving it a warmer sound and different buffers I believe.
But again, when it comes to sound there is no objective 'better', just preference. Like you can argue that a (pure) silver cable is better than a copper cable, because its materials are more expensive etc., but that doesn't mean everyone will like it more (I really don't like pure silver). So if you know you prefer an analytic sound, then it's better to get the 5P or 5N. Because the slight increase in soundstage or whatever won't trump the warmer sound.
But this is slightly moot at the moment, since Robert took the 5N and 5P off the website.. I emailed him to ask what's up, but he hasn't responded yet. I'm listening to a 5P at the moment, I'll get the 5TX in a month or so. Since it's gonna take another month for the 5TX to arrive, I would just email Robert and say you prefer a 5N (or P), I can't imagine it being a problem.
my understanding is that the 5TX will use the AD8620 opamp for the output stage, which is different(and arguably better) than the one used in the 5N/P.
you can read about the AD8620 opamp here
Oddly enough the fiio x3 guys say the AD8620 is a more neutral sounding opamp, which goes against the TX supposedly having a more "tube like" warm sound
So to start off, Roberts descriptoin of the 5TX claims it is better than the 5N. But he only mentions soundstage, and I'm not sure if it will drastically improve that.. The 5N and 5TX are the same model (5th generation), but with a different board. The 5TX has a tube like board giving it a warmer sound and different buffers I believe.
But again, when it comes to sound there is no objective 'better', just preference. Like you can argue that a (pure) silver cable is better than a copper cable, because its materials are more expensive etc., but that doesn't mean everyone will like it more (I really don't like pure silver). So if you know you prefer an analytic sound, then it's better to get the 5P or 5N. Because the slight increase in soundstage or whatever won't trump the warmer sound.
But this is slightly moot at the moment, since Robert took the 5N and 5P off the website.. I emailed him to ask what's up, but he hasn't responded yet. I'm listening to a 5P at the moment, I'll get the 5TX in a month or so. Since it's gonna take another month for the 5TX to arrive, I would just email Robert and say you prefer a 5N (or P), I can't imagine it being a problem.
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Hadn't heard of them but the description is interesting. 
