[Whippler]

I really like the auto off function on my 4G. The slim form factor is a winner for me. Combined with a sound that I am fairly sure is pretty much as good as it gets.
One thing though. Does anyone get any effect from the cross feed function? I cannot hear any difference.

Some occasions when figuring out if it does anything i have heard minor difference, not in a good way. Isn't crossfeed supposed to balance out left and right channel? I have plenty of ACDC, and quite a bit of their songs start out with only in one channel... crossfeeding it with Arrow 4G doesn't really do anything to that, it's still just in one channel :/
 
Edit: okey it certainly works, hook your HP:s to pc with arrow, go to your sound device configuration in windows, only have other iem/side of the headphone on your head, and play the sound from the other side in the conf menu, its pretty silent on the other channel, but with crossfeed enabled, it's little bit more.
 
IMO i'd like to have stronger crossfeed for some occasions. Even to the extent of playing it "mono" trough both channels.

 

[krismusic]

Isn't crossfeed supposed to balance out left and right channel?

As I understand the idea is to feed a little of the right chanel into the left and vice versa to try and recreate some of the experience of listening to speakers.

 

[esmBOS]

As I understand the idea is to feed a little of the right chanel into the left and vice versa to try and recreate some of the experience of listening to speakers.

Try the intro of this song with and without crossfeed. Notice how the sound moves slightly in front of you instead of mono from 1 channel.

 

[Whippler]

As I understand the idea is to feed a little of the right chanel into the left and vice versa to try and recreate some of the experience of listening to speakers.

ah yes, balance is some what wrong word here since its related with balancing volume. I dont think its to get more speaker like sound, could be, since it's not doing a good job mixing the channels fully to get rid of issues where only one channel has sound in some songs, witch is really annoying with iems.

 

[mpawluk91]

I don't think the 5G is going to be a huge improvement (if any) unless you want/need a redbook DAC with the Arrow in one unit. I think I remember reading on the headphonja forum that the same DAC chip is used as in the first "Line-DAC" from Headstage but that could be changed to the 2nd gen.

You gain a basic DAC (which is great if you need one) but from the specs I've read you lose the auto-off function and get a lighted on/off toggle as in the first gen Arrow. There is also supposed to be a digital volume control.

What do u mean red book dac? Like cd audio? Anyway I probably won't use the dac function but I love my analog volume pot and auto on/off so I'll probably just keep my 4g

 

[Hellenback]

redbook = limited to 16 /44.1 which is the CD spec as you said.  I think the cable also does 16/48...just not 24 bits or higher kHz

 

[Mmet]

If I wanted to get the 4N ..how can I get one ?

 

[whoever]

If I wanted to get the 4N ..how can I get one ?

your best bet are the classified here at head fi or elswhere second hand…..since Robert has gone missing for the last week…..

 

[whoever]

ah, i spoke too fast.....
 
 
pre-orders for g5 are open......

 

[pauldgroot]

Jup, I ordered one to pair with my Galaxy S1 and HIFIMAN RE-272's. Now let the waiting begin. 

 

[proedros]

  Jup, I ordered one to pair with my Galaxy S1 and HIFIMAN RE-272's. Now let the waiting begin. 

 
great iem , 3 years in love with it and running

arrow is one great little ampand completely transparent - you will love it

 

[redrich2000]

I can't believe anyone would be any other portable amp than the arrow, ridiculous battery, auto off, multiple imputs and headphone outs (great for ABing), crazy thin, bass and treble boost and it sounds great and can drive almost anything. 

 

[redrich2000]

As I understand the idea is to feed a little of the right chanel into the left and vice versa to try and recreate some of the experience of listening to speakers.

It's particularly useful for listening to jazz, recordings will usually have instruments separated quite wide in the mix, so in headphones it sounds very unatural, like the sax and trumpet are at opposite ends of the room. crossfeed corrects that a bit. Although the arrow cross is very subtle.

 

[thegunner100]

  I can't believe anyone would be any other portable amp than the arrow, ridiculous battery, auto off, multiple imputs and headphone outs (great for ABing), crazy thin, bass and treble boost and it sounds great and can drive almost anything. 

 
Mainly because there are better sounding portable amps out there.

 

[pauldgroot]

Well, we'll see what the G5 can do then!