[ThanatosVI]

I figured as well but there might be different natural laws over in the "Holo-Sphere"... sei's drum.

but how much character...

I started to entertain one idea... again... Tu be or not Tu be.
Where to go from Oor/Hypsos when the intention is aiming for audio nirvana! (to make not one small, but a giant leap. Not for mankind, for one man, being me, right?).
Read Fidelios review again came over here, envious from that other thread.
Where this man from the paradoxical land of DHT lead me to supratek.

I like Mick M.'s presentation of his/their amps.

So I theoretically, probably impossible to achieve, want to get a good Idea of which would be a "better" solution...

Sell OOR, get Envy or add a pre instead?
A pre into OOR in power amp mode would leave one practically with two amps!

So how close would one get achieving a Envy/Woo 22/V 16 experience with a great dedicated pre into Oor? theoretically...

I might be biased here, but I can't imagine that you'd regret getting an Envy.

As for how close does a tube pre into OOR come, really can't be generally answered.
You'd have to listen for yourself.
Even differences between tube amp models are significant.

However one question is clearly answered for me, and that answer is Tu be!

 

[incredulousity]

I might be biased here, but I can't imagine that you'd regret getting an Envy.

As for how close does a tube pre into OOR come, really can't be generally answered.
You'd have to listen for yourself.
Even differences between tube amp models are significant.

However one question is clearly answered for me, and that answer is Tu be!

Tu be is always the answer. Envy works great as a tube preamp, and lots of people like Oor in power amp mode. Tube rolling gives you lots of options, of course. I have Bliss, and use Envy as preamp to it often, mostly as I have my powered speakers connected to The SS amp for convenience.

 

[protoss]

PART I
For fun a list of 300B integrated amps, power amps and single ended amps.
Link to this page on page 1.

ENGSTRÖM ARNE integrated amplifier $30,000


MD-300Bm using 2 300B Tubes $4000



Melody AN300B MAX $7000


Audio Space Reference 3.1 (300B) $4000



Amare Musica



Takatsuki TA−S01
Single−Ended Vacuum Tube Power Amplifier
MSRP: $32,000



YOSHIBA
300B-wood MK2 Single power amplifier $4000



Kit1-10 300B $3000


Fezz Audio Mira Ceti 300B $4090



Sophia Electric Signature 91-01 300B $10,000


Feliks Audio Arioso 300B $7200



Nagra 300i (£15,950)


Manley Neo-Classic SE/PP 300B monoblock amplifiers
Manley
$22,295.00


300B SET Mono Blocks — Finale Audio $6000


Allnic Audio T-2000 $20,000 (not 300B)



Closer Acoustics 300B Provocateur Signature Adam Sztaba integrated amplifier €16.910


AirTight ATM300R Reference amplifier $20,000


WESTERN ELECTRIC 91C Metropolis $30,000 for 1

PART II
More add-ons

Wavac EC-300B Tube Amplifier

Shindo laboratory 300B

Allnic Audio T-1500-MK2 (300B SET stereo integrated amplifier model)

Trafomatic Audio 300B

UCHIDA TRIODE AMP 300B

Woo Audio WA5 (2nd gen) 300B

Sacthailand 300B

Luxman mq300

Yamamoto Acoustic Craft A-09S 300B

Cayin A-300B MK2

Audio Frontiers Supreme 300B

Kondo-San amp 300B

Legendary Audion Golden Dream 2 300B

Audion 300B Golden Dream Monoblock Amplifiers Review
https://www.dagogo.com/audion-golden-dream-300b-monoblock-amplifiers-review/

 

[protoss]

Alright everyone. Its settled.

Audio Technica is truly a magnificent legendary company.
https://www.audio-technica.co.jp/narukami/en.html
Audio Technica 300B amplifier

Not many will be on their level now. Not even Sony, Sennheiser or STAX created a 300B amplifier.

 

[Galapac]

It’s a really beautiful amp with no price. I would be too scared to even ask but with the design, rare woods used, premium components and 4 300b tubes used I would guess around $15-20k U.S. dollars. Possibly higher.

 

[nwavesailor]

Goggle search has it at a rumored price of $84K and limited to a production of 10 units!

 

[WillieB]

Alright everyone. Its settled.

Audio Technica is truly a magnificent legendary company.
https://www.audio-technica.co.jp/narukami/en.html
Audio Technica 300B amplifier



Not many will be on their level now. Not even Sony, Sennheiser or STAX created a 300B amplifier.

That is a beast indeed. I wonder if these will be available in the US. It does seem odd that they picked 150 and 600 for output impedance selections, but I guess that lines up with their headphone offerings considering some of their 470 ohm offerings, etc.

 

[ThanatosVI]

That is a beast indeed. I wonder if these will be available in the US. It does seem odd that they picked 150 and 600 for output impedance selections, but I guess that lines up with their headphone offerings considering some of their 470 ohm offerings, etc.

If those are the only impedance settings, it seems incredibly out of Touch with the market

Would make me Lose a lot of confidence in their abilities

 

[Galapac]

If those are the only impedance settings, it seems incredibly out of Touch with the market

Would make me Lose a lot of confidence in their abilities

Maybe it’s a range… but if I had this I would not be using the lower impedance setting anyway and if it’s true what was said above, their market is quite small with only 10 produced for the price of a luxury car.

 

[protoss]

We got some expensive systems out. Some say that expensive = Superior in sound. Well than, Audio Technica has the greatest sound

Audio Techinca hpa-kg baru $84,000 (Four 300B Tubes)
Sennheiser he1 $60,000
Hifiman Shangri-la $50,000 (Four 300B Tubes)

Audio Technica and Hifiman amplifiers are using 300B Tubes.

 

[WATASHIWA]

Hi, right noe I own the Feliks Envy performance edition with the full music tubes and I absolutely love the sound, thinking to upgrade to Elrog ER300B what would be the benefit upgrading? I use the Envy as a Preamp with 2 Cambridge Edge M Monoblocks and as a Headphone Amp with the Susvara. I prefer a warm sound the Streamer Cambridge Edge NQ is already very detailed. I need more organic sounding, detailed not harsh. Hope someone can help.

 

[nwavesailor]

The Elrogs are fantastic in the Envy. I started with the ER, added the MO. I then sold both after getting the TM.

 

[incredulousity]

The Elrogs are fantastic in the Envy. I started with the ER, added the MO. I then sold both after getting the TM.

What @nwavesailor said.

 

[WATASHIWA]

The Elrogs are fantastic in the Envy. I started with the ER, added the MO. I then sold both after getting the TM.

What happens to the sound when you go higher?

 

[WATASHIWA]

Hi, I am looking for tubes to reduce the detail in my system. I build a Stereo and a Headphone System with:

2x Cambridge Edge M Monoblocks
1x Feliks Audio Envy Performance Edition with Fullmusic Tubes & 6SN7
1x Cambridge EDGE NQ Streamer DAC
1x Audioquest Earh XLR
1x Audioquest Water XLR
Speaker: KEF R7
Headphones: Susvara

Any recommendations?
Thanks