Head-fi and BOSE

Feb 6, 2007 at 9:26 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 109
John_M

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I've just read the thread containing the revalation (sic) about how head-fi members are connoisseur's (sic) of music (in contrast to the common BOSE-listening plebs). After I finished, I had my own "revalation."
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Head-fi members generally don't like BOSE. BOSE-bashing threads are always well received, and generate an enthusiastic response. We know how these threads work. The thread starter proclaims loudly that BOSE headphones suck (often in a "witty" manner) and the mantra is soon being repeated in confident chorus by the entire head-fi herd.

BOSE's business model is fairly simple. They aggressively market their headphones as having amazing sound quality, so when the consumer buys BOSE headphones he strongly believes he is about to listen to amazing sound. The placebo effect does the rest. It works amazingly well with music.

Most of the products sold on head-fi work in exactly the same way. Tell the gullible consumer that the audio component he's about to buy will greatly enhance his listening experience. Super-freeze-dried cables. Specially modified mp3 players. "Musical" amps. The consumer splashes his cash, and once again the placebo effect does the rest.

So although head-fi members believe themselves to be vastly superior to the average BOSE-buying mass market commoner, they have a lot more in common with him than they'd like to admit. The only real difference is that they get ripped off by different people.

Revalation Complete.
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Feb 6, 2007 at 9:29 PM Post #2 of 109
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Originally Posted by John_M /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I've just read the thread containing the revalation (sic) about how head-fi members are connoisseur's (sic) of music (in contrast to the common BOSE-listening plebs). After I finished, I had my own "revalation."
smily_headphones1.gif


Head-fi members generally don't like BOSE. BOSE-bashing threads are always well received, and generate an enthusiastic response. We know how these threads work. The thread starter proclaims loudly that BOSE headphones suck (often in a "witty" manner) and the mantra is soon being repeated in confident chorus by the entire head-fi herd.

BOSE's business model is fairly simple. They aggressively market their headphones as having amazing sound quality, so when the consumer buys BOSE headphones he strongly believes he is about to listen to amazing sound. The placebo effect does the rest. It works amazingly well with music.

Most of the products sold on head-fi work in exactly the same way. Tell the gullible consumer that the audio component he's about to buy will greatly enhance his listening experience. Super-freeze-dried cables. Specially modified mp3 players. "Musical" amps. The consumer splashes his cash, and once again the placebo effect does the rest.

So although head-fi members believe themselves to be vastly superior to the average BOSE-buying mass market commoner, they have a lot more in common with him than they'd like to admit. The only real difference is that they get ripped off by different people.

Revalation Complete.
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This will end your attitude: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185790
 
Feb 6, 2007 at 9:30 PM Post #3 of 109
the only difference is that Bose headphones really do suck... most of the other 'stuff' we buy and sell here is much, much better.


I did an A B session w/ my cousin who owns some Bose Triports. I used his headphones, a pair of Koss KSC75's (stock) AKG k81dj's (recabled) and a pair of Grado SR80's (hd414 pads) we used the same song/source for everything and readily stated that all 3 pairs of my headphones sounded better then his Bose.... then he was amazed to find out the suggested retail prices of all 3...
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Feb 6, 2007 at 9:31 PM Post #4 of 109
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Originally Posted by John_M /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I've just read the thread containing the revalation (sic) about how head-fi members are connoisseur's (sic) of music (in contrast to the common BOSE-listening plebs). After I finished, I had my own "revalation."
smily_headphones1.gif


Head-fi members generally don't like BOSE. BOSE-bashing threads are always well received, and generate an enthusiastic response. We know how these threads work. The thread starter proclaims loudly that BOSE headphones suck (often in a "witty" manner) and the mantra is soon being repeated in confident chorus by the entire head-fi herd.

BOSE's business model is fairly simple. They aggressively market their headphones as having amazing sound quality, so when the consumer buys BOSE headphones he strongly believes he is about to listen to amazing sound. The placebo effect does the rest. It works amazingly well with music.

Most of the products sold on head-fi work in exactly the same way. Tell the gullible consumer that the audio component he's about to buy will greatly enhance his listening experience. Super-freeze-dried cables. Specially modified mp3 players. "Musical" amps. The consumer splashes his cash, and once again the placebo effect does the rest.

So although head-fi members believe themselves to be vastly superior to the average BOSE-buying mass market commoner, they have a lot more in common with him than they'd like to admit. The only real difference is that they get ripped off by different people.

Revalation Complete.
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:hands OP a flame suit:

but really, try listening for yourself. that phrase is repeated more times than anything else.
 
Feb 6, 2007 at 9:33 PM Post #5 of 109
Feb 6, 2007 at 9:36 PM Post #6 of 109
plus, personally i don't think Bose inherently sucks. it hangs quite nicely with a pair of 20 dollar Koss clips. however, Bose indeed sucks for the money you have to pay for it, since you have to pay a premium for all that wonderful marketing as well.
 
Feb 6, 2007 at 9:42 PM Post #8 of 109
go compare a "BOOSTAROO" to a Ray Samuels Audio Emmeline "The Hornet" and come back with your opinion. or perhaps HD280s to HD650s. maybe a multi-array audiolineout LOD to a piece of string between the headphone jack and the amp input?

while i agree that some stuff is superfluous (COUGHPURERHODIUMPOWERCABLESCOUGH), there are major differences between amplifiers, headphones, and pretty much every high-end component. there's always going to be diminishing returns for these types of stuff, but still returns!
 
Feb 6, 2007 at 9:59 PM Post #12 of 109
Bose sucks!

Bose = Buy Other Sound Equipment!!

No highs, no lows, it must be Bose!!!

*ahem*

But seriously, I've only seriously demoed a Bose once a long time ago. I have tried a few more times, but each time (once at CompUSA, once at Target, and once I think at Circuit City) the volume control seems to be "broken" and fixed at the highest level, and once it sounded like it was playing 64 kbps MP3s!
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So I've never been able to give the Triports a comfortable listen...
 
Feb 6, 2007 at 10:01 PM Post #13 of 109
haha, no offense, but I couldn't help laughing when I saw the title. If we were to assume you were right (which, objectively, you are not) you're still in the wrong place to be voicing such an opinion. Show me a real computer geek that uses a commercially built computer rather than one he built himself.

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The only real difference is that they get ripped off by different people.


no, the difference is we're getting what we pay for: damn good sound that the average person has never heard or even thought possible before, and Bose buyers are getting ripped off

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HAHA hell ya, it better be an Arnold-In-Terminator grade industrial one too!!
 
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