[KurtW]

I've heard my HD600 on both the old and new Max, and I'd have to say I think it's more than a amp issue. These are my favorite phones but if I could change them, I'd lighten up the midbass a tad and bring up the upper midrange and treble a bit. The last thing I'd complain about would be a lean low end, as I find the opposite to be true. They are leaner than a Sony V6, but the V6 is a little heavy in the low end for me, although they do go quite low.

I would like to find a phone I liked a lot better than the HD600, and I've listened to quite a few, but so far I haven't found it. I've found ones that had certain aspects I liked better, but not one that I liked better all around.

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The HD 600 might be dark compared to Grados, but compared to the warmth of my treasured Beyer 770/990 Pros, it's thin, without heft and presence.

Tomcat's comments about these in the past had me wanting to give these I try, but after this statement I think I'll cross them off my list.

 

[briantf27]

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Originally posted by KurtW I would like to find a phone I liked a lot better than the HD600, and I've listened to quite a few, but so far I haven't found it. I've found ones that had certain aspects I liked better, but not one that I liked better all around.

Agreed.

Brian.

 

[MacDEF]

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I would like to find a phone I liked a lot better than the HD600, and I've listened to quite a few, but so far I haven't found it. I've found ones that had certain aspects I liked better, but not one that I liked better all around.

That's a very good way to put it, Kurt.

 

[thomas]

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I would like to find a phone I liked a lot better than the HD600, and I've listened to quite a few, but so far I haven't found it. I've found ones that had certain aspects I liked better, but not one that I liked better all around.

Exactly my feelings as well



Overall, I have also noticed the slight fuzz Vertigo and BriantF mentioned, i certainly think there is a slight veil over the details. I find the frequency response very flat overall, with no obvious peaks or drastic roll off. I would prefer a little more treble, though it is far from "dark" IMO. Also, the bass is good, though it seems to roll off around 75 hz, without the deep extension of some other headphones.

But i'm really nitpicking here, as kurt W said, there are quite a few headphones that can beat it in certain areas, but i certainly haven't heard anything that is as balanced/well rounded as the HD600's.

 

[dhwilkin]

Well, here's my late contribution to this thread. I also don't hear any veil over the highs, though I do think they're a tad rolled-off, especially compared to something like the V6s. Also, the bottom end is far from lean, though it certainly isn't the punchiest in the world. And I'll also agree w/ KurtW, there's no other headphone I like better so far. Now, if Etymotic made headphones and not just canalphones, it might be a different story, but that's beside the point.

BTW, I'm referring to the 580s, not 600s, though the difference is probably negligible.

 

[legoman]

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Originally posted by Vertigo-1 He's cool with me though, good for homework times when you can't have Britney Spears singing in ya ear.

I thought people didn't listen to Britney Spears, they just watch Britney Spears?

 

[sordidman]

Anyone have any experience with the 590 and how it relates to the 600s??

 

[MacDEF]

sordid, I haven't heard the 590s personally. However, from reading reviews of them, they appear to be too bright. They were supposed to be the successor to the 580, but so many people preferred the 580 that they kept making them and just added the 590 to the line.

 

[KR...]

You can find the 590 really cheap now. I don't know why that is, they use to cost more than the 580, now they cost a lot less. They are suppose to have a different sound from the 580 and 600.

You should try them 1st before you buy, however.

 

[coolvij]

vertigo-1: Kenny G makes some.....uh......music. I think. If you like it, that's cool. Just don't think it's the height of instrumental music

Tho orchestral stuff is very good - still don't see how you think any headphone can do it well.....

meh.

You should buy John Coltrane's Ascension disc if you want to hear the OPPOSITE of Kenny G, while staying with a sax.

Seriously.

You'd prolly hate it.....but it would be good stuff to demo cans with, methinx - AND it would confound you......just one disc.....so much fun......

 

[Flumpus]

Ascension is awesome! I love the cd

 

[coolvij]

Same here.....that opening part sucked me in - I haven't surfaced yet............

- "Trane-Boy"

 

[kwkarth]

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Originally posted by briantf27 ...The right electronics go a long way, but can't eliminate it IME. My biggest beef with the HD600s is the lean low end, though.Brian.

Boy, I'll say! Lean low end? Definitely an amplifier dependent artifact!

 

[briantf27]

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Originally posted by kwkarth Boy, I'll say! Lean low end? Definitely an amplifier dependent artifact!

MG Head DT suffers here undoubtedly. But all things being equal in regards to amplification, the Senns do not have the full bodied low end of phones like the Grado RS-1s. Do you disagree with that? I can't see how you could. The predominant alure of the Senns is their midrange to me, and I wouldn't give that up to improve some of the (minor) nitpicks I have.

Brian.

 

[kwkarth]

Brian, again, I think we could be dealing with amplifier dependencies here. In jack 1 of my OBH-11SE, the 600s are warm and almost tubby sounding , yet retain detail. In jack two they're much better controlled, but not at all what I would call "dry." My Grados are ever so slightly on the warm side of dead neutral, depending upon the earpad I choose to use. I find the wonderfully liquid midrange of my Grados to be their most compelling feature by far. Isn't it interesting the different things we hear wih different amps and probably program material! What a great "hobby!"