Happy as a Pig in Schiit: Introducing Modi Multibit

[bigro]

I went from a Modi 2 U to a Bimby In my 2 Channel setup. I had the opposite experience, The Modi 2 U  while still a  very good dac seemed to get a little muddy with complex passages and the imaging was no where as Nice as the Bimby. So much so,  I stare at my Modi 2 U every day at work and really just want to get a Modi Multi Bit, I have found that The Bimby will make things that are not mastered well or have low bitrate  tracks sound worse than with the Modi 2 U..On the flip side There are some albums I Play over and over because they sound sublime when coming through an MB Dac. My impression is if the details are there it will put  big grin on your face, if its not you will skip to the next track because it sounds like crap.
 
I guess its a subjective thing. some like it some dont.
 
On the toasty DAC subject there are many who have said they noticed improvements when plugged in and left to warm up. this is across the board for the MB Dacs.

 

[Sajakhaki]

  I went from a Modi 2 U to a Bimby In my 2 Channel setup. I had the opposite experience, The Modi 2 U  while still a  very good dac seemed to get a little muddy with complex passages and the imaging was no where as Nice as the Bimby. So much so,  I stare at my Modi 2 U every day at work and really just want to get a Modi Multi Bit, I have found that The Bimby will make things that are not mastered well or have low bitrate  tracks sound worse than with the Modi 2 U..On the flip side There are some albums I Play over and over because they sound sublime when coming through an MB Dac. My impression is if the details are there it will put  big grin on your face, if its not you will skip to the next track because it sounds like crap.
 
I guess its a subjective thing. some like it some dont.
 
On the toasty DAC subject there are many who have said they noticed improvements when plugged in and left to warm up. this is across the board for the MB Dacs.

I agree with this so far.  I would say most of my Spotify tracks sound better, but I have found a few that were thrown off - guessing Modi 2 Uber handles bad masters better like you said. 

 

[pkcpga]

Which source and inputs are you using on each DAC?

Two sources, Mac hard drive (DSD, converted sacd, dvda, other high res or lossless) with USB, bluesound optical or USB, all nordost cables. Bluesound for tidal hifi connection and wireless library, skipping it's DAC by optical out, but it has a great app and multi room capabilities.

 

[earnmyturns]

Two sources, Mac hard drive (DSD, converted sacd, dvda, other high res or lossless) with USB, bluesound optical or USB, all nordost cables. Bluesound for tidal hifi connection and wireless library, skipping it's DAC by optical out, but it has a great app and multi room capabilities.

Hum... never even tried to use a general-purpose computer as a digital source to any of my DACs, but given the improvements I heard from gear like an mLink USB>S/PDIF coax isolator/reclocker from a dedicated low-power Linux streamer, to a specialized microRendu renderer with a Teddy Pardo LPS, I'm a bit concerned that you are getting from your Yggy the jittery or electrically noisy mush you are feeding it.

 

[pkcpga]

Hum... never even tried to use a general-purpose computer as a digital source to any of my DACs, but given the improvements I heard from gear like an mLink USB>S/PDIF coax isolator/reclocker from a dedicated low-power Linux streamer, to a specialized microRendu renderer with a Teddy Pardo LPS, I'm a bit concerned that you are getting from your Yggy the jittery or electrically noisy mush you are feeding it.

Not sure, the Dave has no issues with it, nor does the naim DAC or the old Linn DAC or mojo. Only was an issue with the Yggdrasil so maybe it's more sensitive, the Mac was professionally set up by an audio store for audio use only in my listening room so it's not exactly a stock Mac.

 

[earnmyturns]

Not sure, the Dave has no issues with it, nor does the naim DAC or the old Linn DAC or mojo. Only was an issue with the Yggdrasil so maybe it's more sensitive, the Mac was professionally set up by an audio store for audio use only in my listening room so it's not exactly a stock Mac.

You mentioned DSD and SACD, how are you converting those to PCM for the Yggy?

 

[pkcpga]

You mentioned DSD and SACD, how are you converting those to PCM for the Yggy?

Couldn't use wouldn't play, Mqa wouldn't play either from my bluesound. Only able to use cd lossless or tidal hifi which is a big loss at its price range. Also used a universal player, Linn with cd's.

 

[jbarrentine]

Is the increased clarity worth the difference in losing some detail from a better dac?

 

[blue350gt]

anybody have trouble installing windows 10 drivers on the multibit?
I can't get it to install the windows 10 driver, when installing I get the "Please connect the CMEDIA...", can never get past this. I tried 3 PCs and 4 different USB cables.
However version 1.03 driver will install.
I have a Modi Uber 4490 and the windows 10 driver install just fine, I contacted Schiit and I am waiting for what they say.

Thanks

 

[madwolfa]

anybody have trouble installing windows 10 drivers on the multibit?
I can't get it to install the windows 10 driver, when installing I get the "Please connect the CMEDIA...", can never get past this. I tried 3 PCs and 4 different USB cables.
However version 1.03 driver will install.
I have a Modi Uber 4490 and the windows 10 driver install just fine, I contacted Schiit and I am waiting for what they say.

Thanks

 
Hmm. Windows 10 native driver should work just fine.

 

[Lohb]

  Is the increased clarity worth the difference in losing some detail from a better dac?

You mean imaging/positioning vs resolution level (?)  Am interested in this too....

 

[ItWasGreat]

anybody have trouble installing windows 10 drivers on the multibit?
I can't get it to install the windows 10 driver, when installing I get the "Please connect the CMEDIA...", can never get past this. I tried 3 PCs and 4 different USB cables.
However version 1.03 driver will install.
I have a Modi Uber 4490 and the windows 10 driver install just fine, I contacted Schiit and I am waiting for what they say.

Thanks

Actually i stopped attempting to go that route, what i did was unplug the usb cable connected to my motherboard (while still connected to my dac) and just unplugged it and replugged it in causing device manager to force itself to find the drivers for it subsequently getting the correct version. Extremely convoluted in my opinion but it works.

 

[Argo Duck]

Off topic for this thread but I'm surprised by impressions of Yggy as muddy. No problems at all in my case. To the contrary, all genres of music including classical show amazing separation, detail and texture. Some tracks - é.g. From Radiohead's King of Limbs album - reveal layers I never heard before. Overall, differences range from subtle to profound compared to other dacs I have to hand.

I play classical piano and have never before heard piano reproduced so realistically and naturally. I found myself unconsciously moving the muscles of my fingers. That level of immersion never happened before.

Disclaimer: I have not heard Dave. I suppose it's possible it is so much better than Yggy I would hear the latter as muddy.

 

[nicoch46]

better stay in topic with MODI2 MB ....or schiit stuff
 

 

[KoshNaranek]

Two sources, Mac hard drive (DSD, converted sacd, dvda, other high res or lossless) with USB, bluesound optical or USB, all nordost cables. Bluesound for tidal hifi connection and wireless library, skipping it's DAC by optical out, but it has a great app and multi room capabilities.

I am not as impressed with USB on Schiit DACs. The Yggdrasil sounds much better via SPDIF. The drop in performance is really not subtle. I tried the same experiment with a Gustard x12 and the performance drop was minimal. Try a different source before comitting to an outboard USB to SPDIF converter. I suggest a DVD player you have lying around via SPDIF connection.