[lentoviolento]

how the **** can i set the mimby to upsample apple music? is it really useful anyway?

 

[winders]

  how the **** can i set the mimby to upsample apple music? is it really useful anyway?

You can't set anything in the Mimby. The Mimby will upsample any source below 24/176.4 to 24/176.4 or 24/192. Any source that is 24/176.4 or 24/192 will not be upsampled.
 
For example, Red Book source material (16/44.1) is upsampled to 24/176.4. 24/96 source material would be upsampled to 24/192. 24/192 source material would not be upsampled at all.
 
If you wanted to bypass the onboard upsampling of Mimby, you would have your player software upsample to 24/176.4 or 24/192. I prefer letting Mimby do the upsampling but others prefer doing it in software.

 

[winders]

I mean they really are. The DAC chips themselves.
Atleast in the same tier.
Like ESS 9018,AK 4490, PCM5102A, CS4398...
They are all top end chips and all capable of the same thing and for the most part they resolve the same when implemented properly.
Usually what is better is the analog stages and the clocking (for DS implementations).
I can tell you that alot of the difference in sound is the tuning done by the manufacturers.
Those with more experience or knowledge will make better sounding products usually.
But hell, today in the world of cheap ICs you can get amazing quality for a low price.
I know that growing up I saved up for "good" sound cards and better speakers and now the FiiO K1 sounds better than everything I had as a kid for a fraction of the price.

So I'm not saying to not buy good stuff, or that nothing but cheap parts are worth it. This is mostly a hobby after all and you should buy what makes you happy and what you think sounds good.

DACs using the same D/A chip often sound vastly different. There is a lot more to a DAC's sound the D/A chip chosen. Also, Sigma Delta DACs are quite different than Multibit/R2R DACs. They are not even close to the same. You are making statements that are nonsensical!

 

[maxh22]

  If you wanted to bypass the onboard upsampling of Mimby, you would have your player software upsample to 24/176.4 or 24/192. I prefer letting Mimby do the upsampling but others prefer doing it in software.

 
I remember Mike saying there is no way to bypass Mimby's burrito filter, isn't it the same with its internal upsampling?

 

[Jimster480]

 
DACs using the same D/A chip often sound vastly different. There is a lot more to a DAC's sound the D/A chip chosen. Also, Sigma Delta DACs are quite different than Multibit/R2R DACs. They are not even close to the same. You are making statements that are nonsensical!

Yes like I said its all about the analog portion of the DAC after the DAC chip itself.
 
Between the Op Amps, Filters, Thin Film Transistors, etc

 

[winders]

   
I remember Mike saying there is no way to bypass Mimby's burrito filter, isn't it the same with its internal upsampling?

Mike said that....and then I asked about it as I described above...and he said that does indeed bypass the mega burrito filter.

 

[maxh22]

 
Mike said that....and then I asked about it as I described above...and he said that does indeed bypass the mega burrito filter.

So you're saying if I were to use HQ player to do upsampling to 32/384 khz, it would bypass the mega burrito filter and mimbys own internal processing? 

 

[winders]

I am fairly certain Bimby acts just like Mimby in this regard. Gumby and Yggy always upsample to 24/352.8 or 24/384 and that cannot be disabled. Why? Gumby and Yggy have an input max of 24/176.4 or 24/192.

 

[winders]

  So you're saying if I were to use HQ player to do upsampling to 32/384 khz, it would bypass the mega burrito filter and mimbys own internal processing? 

Mimby, Bimby, Gumby, and Yggy accept a max rate of 24/176.4 or 24/192. You can't feed them 32/384.

 

[jimmers]

 
Yes like I said its all about the analog portion of the DAC after the DAC chip itself.
 
Between the Op Amps, Filters, Thin Film Transistors, etc

Thin Film Transistors?

 

[Jimster480]

  Thin Film Transistors?

Yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin-film_transistor

 

[jimmers]

Yes like I said its all about the analog portion of the DAC after the DAC chip itself.
Between the Op Amps, Filters, Thin Film Transistors, etc

Wouldn't have thought a display would be described as the "analog portion after the DAC chip itself"

 

[Jimster480]

  Wouldn't have thought a display would be described as the "analog portion after the DAC chip itself"

I guess you didn't really read far.
Thin Film Transistors can be turned into a display, this is one of the applications of them. But they are used in many applications, literally a 1 second google query provides me with this:
 
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/5458036/?reload=true

 

[jimmers]

 
I guess you didn't really read far.
Thin Film Transistors can be turned into a display, this is one of the applications of them. But they are used in many applications, literally a 1 second google query provides me with this:
 
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/5458036/?reload=true

And that is a DAC implementation not "analog portion after the DAC chip itself" - I am not aware of TFT commonly being used in the analog sections of audio DACs, I guess I would have expected the mention of FETs (or BJTs) for analog audio rather than TFTs specifically.
Still ... whatever (?)

 

[gvl2016]

 
DACs using the same D/A chip often sound vastly different. There is a lot more to a DAC's sound the D/A chip chosen. Also, Sigma Delta DACs are quite different than Multibit/R2R DACs. They are not even close to the same. You are making statements that are nonsensical!

 
I can't detect any major differences between my Modi Multibit and a Centrance DACmini CX which uses a DS chip on 16/44.1 material. Very close match, any subtle differences there are may well be due to the analog section. You maybe confusing NOS vs. oversampling DACs.