[zilch0md]

   
Heatsinks on Burson's opamps seem not to be very effective because the heat inside the H10 might be beyond the tolerance of Bursons. Reducing the heat of the whole H10 seems to be more critical.

 

  I was thinking of adding those copper gpu heatinks to the H10 itself, i dont know if i still have them or they made the trash-voyage years ago ill have to look, they werent big and they are well built. If i had one of those infrared thermometers that would be helpful.

 
For $27 plus shipping costs, you could start by just setting two of these 300mm x 120mm aluminum heat sinks on top of the H10 case, side by side - without attaching them or using any thermal cement:
 

 
 
http://www.lck-led.com/aluminum-heatsink-15x3w-40x1w-300x120x20mm-black-p-946.html
 
You would be surprised how effective this can be. I routinely use a small heat sink placed underneath my CEntrance DACport - which can get quite warm, running in Class A.  
 

 
You would think that with the fins down against the table, nothing could be accomplished. No doubt, it would be more effective if the heat sink was on top of the heat source, but this arrangement works extremely well, pulling down the temperature of the DACport so much, it's obvious just by touching it.  The only trick is to make sure the two flat surfaces are in close contact with each other.
 
So, putting a large heat sink on top of the H10 case, seems like a great idea to me.
 
The H10 has a footprint of 385mm x 280mm (15-3/8 in. x 11 in.).  The bigger the heat sink, the better.
 

 
Mike

 

[tretneo]

Hi all,
 
I've been away for a while (last active around the time the SS5 OpAmps were announced) and I'm intrigued by all the overheating talk. I was tempted to pick them up (back then) but stuck with my full boat SS4 OpAmps, they're pretty great in my opinion. Has anyone discussed why the SS5s are so sensitive to the H10 heat while the SS4s seem to handle it fine?
 
- tret

 

[MLegend]

If anyone is looking to buy an H10 with full burson V5s pm me. Selling mine.

 

[canthearyou]

Hi all,

I've been away for a while (last active around the time the SS5 OpAmps were announced) and I'm intrigued by all the overheating talk. I was tempted to pick them up (back then) but stuck with my full boat SS4 OpAmps, they're pretty great in my opinion. Has anyone discussed why the SS5s are so sensitive to the H10 heat while the SS4s seem to handle it fine?

- tret

It's not necessarily the temp, but the voltage rating. The V4 are rated for 20v, the v5 is rated 17v. The H10 is supplying 18v.

 

[bwcgrx]

  Hi all,
 
I've been away for a while (last active around the time the SS5 OpAmps were announced) and I'm intrigued by all the overheating talk. I was tempted to pick them up (back then) but stuck with my full boat SS4 OpAmps, they're pretty great in my opinion. Has anyone discussed why the SS5s are so sensitive to the H10 heat while the SS4s seem to handle it fine?
 
- tret

 
 

It's not necessarily the temp, but the voltage rating. The V4 are rated for 20v, the v5 is rated 17v. The H10 is supplying 18v.

 
 
I just received my full set of SS v5 Op-Amps last week with the heatsink provided by SS/Burson.  They sound fantastic and really open up the sound of the H10 however after only about ten hours the dual V5 in the right channel started to produce a crackling and popping noise which just became worse.  I swapped the dual V5s and the crackling and popping moved to the left side.  I've gone back to stock duals and for the time being the single V5s are behaving.  Still sounds good but not quite as lush and transparent as it was with the addition of the duals. Oh and for the record I run my H10 at +6 gain only so the issues with these Op-Amps failing at lower gain settings should not be an issue in my case.
 
I've contacted Burson regarding the issue but I've no heard back yet.  No doubt they will take care of the problem Op-Amp.
 
I'd say given the situation you may want to consider sticking with the V4s unless you really think the sound improvement is worth the potential risk.

 

[tretneo]

It's not necessarily the temp, but the voltage rating. The V4 are rated for 20v, the v5 is rated 17v. The H10 is supplying 18v.

 
 
Ah, that makes sense. Seems like a pretty big oversight, bummer. Perhaps they could/should release an updated version capable of handling the 18v seeing as how they get a lot of love from the H10 crowd. Anyway, thanks for the info.
 
 

 
 
I'd say given the situation you may want to consider sticking with the V4s unless you really think the sound improvement is worth the potential risk.

 
This is my plan unless I see some kind of solid solution from the folks at Burson.

 

[ZekeAdebayo]

I'm curious to know what is the best gain setting on the H10 to use with the 560s. 

 

[tretneo]

  I'm curious to know what is the best gain setting on the H10 to use with the 560s. 

 
I've been on +6 w/ my HE-560s ever since I got my H10. Can't recall exactly by whom but this is the recommendation I was given last summer and have no complaints.

 

[ZekeAdebayo]

Does anyone know where I can find drivers for the X12? I'm on Windows 10. 

 

[ZekeAdebayo]

   
I've been on +6 w/ my HE-560s ever since I got my H10. Can't recall exactly by whom but this is the recommendation I was given last summer and have no complaints.

Thanks for the reply, it's much appreciated. 

 

[LiFan]

ZekeAdebayo
 
Look at this thread: http://www.head-fi.org/t/789010/gustard-dac-x12-owners

 

[mourip]

 
Ah, that makes sense. Seems like a pretty big oversight, bummer. Perhaps they could/should release an updated version capable of handling the 18v seeing as how they get a lot of love from the H10 crowd. Anyway, thanks for the info.
 
This is my plan unless I see some kind of solid solution from the folks at Burson.

 
I ordered a pair of the new 5Vi-s (singles) to give them a try in my H10. They arrived yesterday but unfortunately they only sent one! A second one is on the way.
 
When I contacted them originally they assured me that these new ones have no problems with the H10 as with their other modules. They are not discrete opamps however. They have an IC opamp housed with some surrounding surface mount components and encased in a metal cover that probably both shields and doubles as a heatsink. Being an IC does not necessarily mean that they will not sound as good ...but we shall see. I wonder what the IC opamp is?

 

[MachineGunz]

How do you think the Nuforce HA-200 is compared to the H10?
 
I want to use the HA-200 with the HE400i's.

 

[l1ghtm4st3r]

   
I ordered a pair of the new 5Vi-s (singles) to give them a try in my H10. They arrived yesterday but unfortunately they only sent one! A second one is on the way.
 
When I contacted them originally they assured me that these new ones have no problems with the H10 as with their other modules. They are not discrete opamps however. They have an IC opamp housed with some surrounding surface mount components and encased in a metal cover that probably both shields and doubles as a heatsink. Being an IC does not necessarily mean that they will not sound as good ...but we shall see. I wonder what the IC opamp is?

Did you get a dispatch email when they sent yours? I haven't received anything from them since I ordered.

 

[mourip]

They did not send 

  Did you get a dispatch email when they sent yours? I haven't received anything from them since I ordered.

 
They did not send a shipping email when I first ordered or when they said they would send the second opamp. They did reply promptly to my email letting them know of the error but I did communicate via PayPal so that might have motivated them.
 
To their credit they took my word for the missing part....