GUSTARD DAC-R26 Balanced Decoder R2R+1Bit Dual Native Decoding Music Bridge

Sep 2, 2024 at 8:48 AM Post #9,136 of 9,963
Guys sorry to interrupt in the discussion.. I must ask .. as most of you say that LAN is the best way to go with the r26 . So all my possibilities are tidal connect an qubuz? I mean with tidal connect I don't get even to hi res which when I connect usb it says hi res. So with LAN we are doomed to lower rate ? Thanks .
*I do not want to use Roon as I find it too expensive
 
Sep 2, 2024 at 9:08 AM Post #9,138 of 9,963
Well there’s bubbleUPnP and Mconnect for Apple, but they’re pretty lame. Before I started using Roon I used JPlay for ios and it was fantastic. There are other players out there depending on your gear….
I tried jplay it has so many bugs unfortunately. Sometimes it works and sometimes not sometimes song starts after 30 secs , sometimes song stops in the middle.. my internet is very stable .
Tbh I think jplay sounds better then tidal connect at least to my ears
 
Sep 2, 2024 at 1:32 PM Post #9,142 of 9,963
Guys sorry to interrupt in the discussion.. I must ask .. as most of you say that LAN is the best way to go with the r26 . So all my possibilities are tidal connect an qubuz? I mean with tidal connect I don't get even to hi res which when I connect usb it says hi res. So with LAN we are doomed to lower rate ? Thanks .
I didn't even realize that Tidal Connect wasn't giving MAX! Going back and forth I still think the LAN sounds better at CD quality. Is there a way to do LAN at MAX or is it a limitation of the internal streamer?
 
Sep 2, 2024 at 1:34 PM Post #9,143 of 9,963
Will Roon play MAX bitrate over LAN? I may have to try that again. I just personally prefer staying inside the Tidal OS to operate things. I don't like adding extra layers since I'm 100% streaming vs owning a library of files in addition to streaming.
 
Sep 2, 2024 at 1:40 PM Post #9,144 of 9,963
Ok, I googled and I think I'm up to speed on it. After they removed MQA and went to FLAC they have yet to update the Tidal Connect tech to support above CD quality FLAC. They say it is coming this year fingers crossed. So, what I'm remembering it doing was MQA - which I honestly thought sounded great most of the time. I'm bummed that got trashed.
 
Sep 2, 2024 at 2:07 PM Post #9,146 of 9,963
The internal streamer can handle a lot more than your typical streaming high-res of 192Khz.. can do upscaled PCM768 from HQplayer all day long.

The internal streamer is the bang-for-buck performance-cost king from my experience. Here's where it sat in my final leaderboard, best first:
  • Innuous PhoenixUSB regen
  • LHY UIP > USB > DI20HE*
  • Audio-Gd DI-20HE DDC*
  • LHY UIP USB regen*
  • DI-20HE
  • LHY UIP
  • R26* HQplayer NAA renderer (LAN)**
  • Gustard U18* DDC
  • Singxer SU-6 DDC
  • U18
  • Ifi Zen stream USB out (HQP NAA or Roon)
*Externally clocked/
**Using a low noise network chain, FMCs and switch with LPS etc

EDIT - added a couple more options tried.
 
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Sep 2, 2024 at 2:17 PM Post #9,147 of 9,963
The internal streamer can handle a lot more than your typical streaming high-res of 192Khz.. can do upscaled PCM768 from HQplayer all day long.

The internal streamer is the bang-for-buck performance-cost king from my experience. Here's where it sat in my final leaderboard, best first:
  • Innuous PhoenixUSB regen
  • Audio-Gd DI-20HE DDC*
  • LHY UIP USB regen*
  • R26* HQplayer NAA renderer (LAN)***
  • Gustard U18* DDC
  • Singxer SU-6 DDC
  • U18**
  • Ifi Zen stream USB out (HQP NAA or Roon)
*Externally clocked/**internal clock
***Using a low noise network chain, FMCs and switch with LPS etc

You didn't even mention only LAN with tidal connect (after the last firmware update )
 
Sep 2, 2024 at 2:29 PM Post #9,148 of 9,963
You didn't even mention only LAN with tidal connect (after the last firmware update )
Never tried it, needed new firmware I wasn't motivated to install. Other R26 streaming options like Roon, Bubble UPnP and Jplay were solid but not quite at the level of the R26 HQP NAA, around the level of the U18* give or take IIRC.
 
Sep 2, 2024 at 2:31 PM Post #9,149 of 9,963
The internal streamer can handle a lot more than your typical streaming high-res of 192Khz.. can do upscaled PCM768 from HQplayer all day long.

The internal streamer is the bang-for-buck performance-cost king from my experience. Here's where it sat in my final leaderboard, best first:
  • Innuous PhoenixUSB regen
  • Audio-Gd DI-20HE DDC*
  • LHY UIP USB regen*
  • R26* HQplayer NAA renderer (LAN)***
  • Gustard U18* DDC
  • Singxer SU-6 DDC
  • U18**
  • Ifi Zen stream USB out (HQP NAA or Roon)
*Externally clocked/**internal clock
***Using a low noise network chain, FMCs and switch with LPS etc
Oh man this is great! I looked them up. No clock support for the Innuous though huh?
 
Sep 2, 2024 at 2:36 PM Post #9,150 of 9,963
Did you use the U18 off of a clock as well?
edit: nm I see you had a separate line for when you used it with a clock. Was the disparity between the U18 and the LHY option large or relatively close? Wondering if it is similar to the switches were they can be brought close with reasonable fuse upgrades like the Gustard ceramic ones.
 
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