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GUSTARD DAC-R26 Balanced Decoder R2R+1Bit Dual Native Decoding Music Bridge
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Buckminster
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@venomas200 After living with the C18 clock and C2 cable for over a month, I do like their contributions to my system, but I don't feel the value is there. If funds are limited, I think there are better investments to make first, and maybe think of a clock as a cherry-on-top last purchase after you've dialed everything else in. Of particular note, which I've detailed elsewhere, is the clock's dubious effect on 48khz material on the R26. To this day I struggle to hear the difference with it on or off with 48khz and its multiples, PCM or DSD.
For the price of the C18 and C2, one could, and IMO probably should, invest in the following first:
Lifetime Roon subscription
Two years of Qobuz
2x Fiber Media Converters, fiber optic cable, Topping P50 LPS, high quality ethernet cable to R26
HQPlayer license
UMIK-1 microphone for room correction/convolution with REW and Roon
The last two offer essentially endless learning and tinkering opportunities compared to adding a clock, while also offering, I believe, greater potential for SQ improvement.
Regarding streamers, the one in the R26 is very, very good, and I'd recommend wearing it out before making sure you even need to upgrade. It works seamlessly with Roon, and it even works well with mconnect which is almost free. Good luck!
For the price of the C18 and C2, one could, and IMO probably should, invest in the following first:
Lifetime Roon subscription
Two years of Qobuz
2x Fiber Media Converters, fiber optic cable, Topping P50 LPS, high quality ethernet cable to R26
HQPlayer license
UMIK-1 microphone for room correction/convolution with REW and Roon
The last two offer essentially endless learning and tinkering opportunities compared to adding a clock, while also offering, I believe, greater potential for SQ improvement.
Regarding streamers, the one in the R26 is very, very good, and I'd recommend wearing it out before making sure you even need to upgrade. It works seamlessly with Roon, and it even works well with mconnect which is almost free. Good luck!
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100000% agree@venomas200 After living with the C18 clock and C2 cable for over a month, I do like their contributions to my system, but I don't feel the value is there. If funds are limited, I think there are better investments to make first, and maybe think of a clock as a cherry-on-top last purchase after you've dialed everything else in. Of particular note, which I've detailed elsewhere, is the clock's dubious effect on 48khz material on the R26. To this day I struggle to hear the difference with it on or off with 48khz and its multiples, PCM or DSD.
For the price of the C18 and C2, one could, and IMO probably should, invest in the following first:
Lifetime Roon subscription
Two years of Qobuz
2x Fiber Media Converters, fiber optic cable, Topping P50 LPS, high quality ethernet cable to R26
HQPlayer license
UMIK-1 microphone for room correction/convolution with REW and Roon
The last two offer essentially endless learning and tinkering opportunities compared to adding a clock with, I believe, greater potential for SQ improvement.
Regarding streamers, the one in the R26 is very, very good, and I'd recommend wearing it out before making sure you even need to upgrade. It works seamlessly with Roon, and it even works well with mconnect which is almost free. Good luck!
venomas200
New Head-Fier
I have roon. Now im try use roon + HQPlayer, but nim not understand this hq player whats exactly can give me this soft. I have question topping? For what, fiber? Explain?@venomas200 After living with the C18 clock and C2 cable for over a month, I do like their contributions to my system, but I don't feel the value is there. If funds are limited, I think there are better investments to make first, and maybe think of a clock as a cherry-on-top last purchase after you've dialed everything else in. Of particular note, which I've detailed elsewhere, is the clock's dubious effect on 48khz material on the R26. To this day I struggle to hear the difference with it on or off with 48khz and its multiples, PCM or DSD.
For the price of the C18 and C2, one could, and IMO probably should, invest in the following first:
Lifetime Roon subscription
Two years of Qobuz
2x Fiber Media Converters, fiber optic cable, Topping P50 LPS, high quality ethernet cable to R26
HQPlayer license
UMIK-1 microphone for room correction/convolution with REW and Roon
The last two offer essentially endless learning and tinkering opportunities compared to adding a clock with, I believe, greater potential for SQ improvement.
Regarding streamers, the one in the R26 is very, very good, and I'd recommend wearing it out before making sure you even need to upgrade. It works seamlessly with Roon, and it even works well with mconnect which is almost free. Good luck!
Stellabagpuss
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l use Jriver via LAN using my R26, l actually think l couldn't afford to replace the R26,or justify it. Although I got lucky, as l only play WAV PCM files
BShaw
500+ Head-Fier
Buckminster listed the Topping linear power supply to power the fiber converter closest to the R26 I’m pretty sure.I have roon. Now im try use roon + HQPlayer, but nim not understand this hq player whats exactly can give me this soft. I have question topping? For what, fiber? Explain?
Buckminster
New Head-Fier
Thanks, @BShaw that's exactly it.
@venomas200 Please see the following earlier post for a helpful explanation of what's needed, you can power both FMCs with it provided they are both 5V 1A, or in my case the clean side FMC and upstream Netgear switch with it. It's a simple and cheap upgrade:
@venomas200 Please see the following earlier post for a helpful explanation of what's needed, you can power both FMCs with it provided they are both 5V 1A, or in my case the clean side FMC and upstream Netgear switch with it. It's a simple and cheap upgrade:
So my Fiber Optic media converter arrived today consisting of:
10Gtek Gigabit Fiber Media Converter w/ Pair of Bidi SFP Singlemode Simplex LC Module (Kit #5)
10Gtek OS2 LC to LC Duplex Fiber Patch Cable 0.5m
TOPPING P50 LPS
USB Type A Male to 90 Degree Barrel Connector Charging Cable 5.5 x 2.5mm DC 5V 80cm
Veetop Ethernet LAN Cat 8 RJ45 Cable 0.25
Initial Impressions: Uplift in resolution, separation, blacker background, a bit more analog(?) to my system.
Verdict: For 220Eur total, yes a keeper.
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venomas200
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And this connect to LAN port in R26?Thanks, @BShaw that's exactly it.
@venomas200 Please see the following earlier post for a helpful explanation of what's needed, you can power both FMCs with it provided they are both 5V 1A, or in my case the clean side FMC and upstream Netgear switch with it. It's a simple and cheap upgrade:
BShaw
500+ Head-Fier
Yes. You run a short Ethernet cable from the second FMC box to the lan port. You can purchase pretty cheap and decent linear power supplies on ali, doesn’t have to be the Topping. Mine was LHY, but if you want to save just buy a Jameco Reliapro 5v.And this connect to LAN port in R26?
venomas200
New Head-Fier
And you claim ,if i use this lan connection , sound will be better? I never focus on isolation lan port, that's very interesting .
venomas200
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I'm still thinking about some streamer to R26, because I im hearing about I I2S. Some people say Gustard play better via I2S. Maybe Eversolo or Holo red
BShaw
500+ Head-Fier
That’s been my experience absolutely, as well as pretty much everyone who’s ever done it.And you claim ,if i use this lan connection , sound will be better? I never focus on isolation lan port, that's very interesting .
Eversolo A6? How do you intend to send audio from eversolo to R26 by i²s?I'm still thinking about some streamer to R26, because I im hearing about I I2S. Some people say Gustard play better via I2S. Maybe Eversolo or Holo red
For a fraction of the cost of the Red or Eversolo (it has an HDMI out but not I2S), it's a no brainer to try FMCs first. See the first post for links, FAQs. R26 internal streamer v sensitive to noise on ethernet input. You can use FMCs with another streamer later too should you choose to go that route...I'm still thinking about some streamer to R26, because I im hearing about I I2S. Some people say Gustard play better via I2S. Maybe Eversolo or Holo red
venomas200
New Head-Fier
OMG you really have right. I've been sure this HDMi port in Eversolo is a I2S. Now after your post I was check in google and you have right.For a fraction of the cost of the Red or Eversolo (it has an HDMI out but not I2S), it's a no brainer to try FMCs first. See the first post for links, FAQs. R26 internal streamer v sensitive to noise on ethernet input. You can use FMCs with another streamer later too should you choose to go that route...
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