[Johnjc1]

I like using Waking the Witch as the Church bells test the timing as you should hopefuly be able to hear how rounded and full the bells ring.
I use other tracks that I am familiar with but Waking the Witch should be easy to pick up on the difference

 

[Stellabagpuss]

Waking The Witch is by Kate Bush.
Isn't it from the Hounds Of Love album?

 

[Johnjc1]

Yes it is
It has taken me years to get to the point I feel I have it dialed in right

 

[Stellabagpuss]

Yes it is
It has taken me years to get to the point I feel I have it dialed in right

Great John,
Hopefully Clive,Jake,Rodders and Dan can add there go to track and we will all have 4 or 5 tracks to compare to level things.
Of course,like everything things can be system dependent, but at least it one constant

 

[Johnjc1]

Agree, but it should help with giving a sense of the timing issues

 

[rodthebod]

Some interesting clock snippets including LB and LHY: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/metrology/10-mhz-reference-for-audio-lhy-ock-1-used-in-lab-instead/

Above my pay grade!

What a brilliant read! Thanks for the link, helps explain the buzz around the Leo Bodnar clock and it's standing...... and what's truly important for a good sound.

 

[rodthebod]

Agree, but it should help with giving a sense of the timing issues

My go to for timing is Mombassa by Hans Zimmer but the one performed by the 2 Cellos, can be a bit brutal thought!

 

[Johnjc1]

I found this quote really interesting
"While the Bodnar doesn’t have a super desirable PN plot from memory its about -70dbc @ 1Hz, however from our experience the amount of spur /noise deviation on the plot curve itself has a greater effect on the result imho"

 

[rodthebod]

A good clock, I think now having experienced the effect, creates or rather allows the music to flow better. It's hard to pinpoint but you really notice it if it's missing once you have heard the effect.

 

[Knobstler]

Could anyone with the gustard fuse please pull it out and confirm that the arrow is supposed to go up or not. That would really help me out!

 

[Clivem2]

Tracks I listen to…

For acoustic bass (double bass) - Oscar Peterson - You Look Good To Me from We Get Requests.

I have a playlist with very varied tracks eg from The Who - Behind Blue Eyes to a couple of versions of Adagio for Strings, also jazz tracks from Diana Krall. Some country/bluegrass too. Before reaching any conclusions I listen to at least half a dozen varied tracks to make sure that initial perceived changes don’t only happen on one specific track or have side effects.

 

[rodthebod]

Tracks I listen to… For acoustic bass (double bass) - Oscar Peterson - You Look Good To Me from We Get Requests. I have a playlist with very varied tracks eg from The Who - Behind Blue Eyes to a couple of versions of Adagio for Strings, also jazz tracks from Diana Krall. Some country/bluegrass too. Before reaching any conclusions I listen to at least half a dozen varied tracks to make sure that initial perceived changes don’t only happen on one specific track or have side effects.

Diana Krall 'Temptation' and 'Sway' are two I use a great deal too, double bass and strings. Jack Savoretti 'Dreamers' is great for depth. But for feeling if your system is getting the dynamics right JJ.Cale #8, this album can sound so flat on most systems but great when it's done right.

 

[rodthebod]

@Jake2 ,
When you'll test the LB clock, try it with various cables. This point seems very important.
The LB does not like the LMR400 at all. It performs the best with a Pro Snake from Thomann that costs less than €10. It prefers it over the Gustard C-2, and even improves nicely the sound of the DI-20HE with it. Go figure…

That's an RG-58 Pro Snake cable from Thomann, not surprised it works well, Thomann are very big in the music industry must sell thousands of meters of the stuff to the professional music industry. Interesting it's RG-58 though...... and 0.5m BNC terminated cable is £2.21!!

 

[Jake2]

What a brilliant read! Thanks for the link, helps explain the buzz around the Leo Bodnar clock and it's standing...... and what's truly important for a good sound.

It's nice to have an expert with familiarity using and measuring a wide range of clocks elaborate on why low offset phase noise isn't, in their view, the be all and end all, of clock performance.

As an aside, I've pressed pause on my shielding tweaks, will proceed, but with caution and once I have some electrical tape to ensure insulation at high risk junctures. Instead, while I wait to get the LB up and running (none of my many 5-12 VC DC adaptor's plugs fit it dammit) I've done I tweak I've been meaning to do for a while - small dots of fo.Q TA-102 anti-vibration tape on the caps. Damn.

Anyone else tried this with the R26?

 

[rodthebod]

It's nice to have an expert with familiarity using and measuring a wide range of clocks elaborate on why low offset phase noise isn't, in their view, the be all and end all, of clock performance.

As an aside, I've pressed pause on my shielding tweaks, will proceed, but with caution and once I have some electrical tape to ensure insulation at high risk junctures. Instead, while I wait to get the LB up and running (none of my many 5-12 VC DC adaptor's plugs fit it dammit) I've done I tweak I've been meaning to do for a while - small dots of fo.Q TA-102 anti-vibration tape on the caps. Damn.

Anyone else tried this with the R26?

It reminds me of my 'let's go damping' days in the 90's, everything was damped internally, caps, inside of covers, anything that rattled, mostly using sound deadening panels (as were used on car panels) Laser Disc players really benefitted. I'd just say less is more, where you've got these 'polymer hybrid' squares on the caps is right. I'd have punched circles but that's more wasteful and at €75 a pop you have to use it carefully. Try blu-tac that can have decent effect too depending on how sensitive the component in question is to micro vibrations.

Have you a battery bank you could use on the LB for now?