Geek Wold Discussion

[jibberish]

My set finally shipped. I'm totally Geeked out waiting over here.

 

[drbluenewmexico]

okay then you are one special individual, congrats

Thank you! So are you. We all are spercial!

 

[drbluenewmexico]

Well they sponsor that manufacturer reason why they sell it on their site. They have direct talks with them as far as I know. The more feedback on their product the better it will be for everyone. Cant have sloppy units in the wild as far as I am concerned. Will see about getting you guys a proper unit. That is a shame about that particular one.

I had a good friend cone over and listen He immediately wanted to get one.... luckily he qualified for the friend or fiend one for the second blue one I just preordered this morning!!

 

[brsdrgn]

I'm glad that I'm one of the early owners of the first blue series.

I honestly expected that QC issue with the big demand, especially after the positive reviews from the owners.

When I was checking the penon's page to order GK10, the view size was around 800. Now it's 6.4k. I don't even include other websites, stores etc...

After having different colors(blue, red, yellow, green and now seems like a new variant of blue) , now I see pre-orders again.

I see there's definitely a huge demand and that might require fast production. I hope they will pay attention to the quality while trying to catch up with the orders.

 

[AmericanSpirit]

So, here's the latest. @Precogvision found glue plugging up the holes. After cleaning the hole up, the bass changed entirely, affecting his conclusion. Everyone should watch his thread for what he found. We definitely benefited from finding out about this QC problem. We will need to ask the Geek Wold guys to check the vent holes are clear before packaging and shipping.

Ah, makes sense

I guess I’m entitled a prophet? Lol

 

[drbluenewmexico]

Ah, makes sense

I guess I’m entitled a prophet? Lol

 

[drbluenewmexico]

Just upgraded tips from provided one's to real spinfit 100s blue collar L ...mych better seal and corresponding increase in bass resolution which made mids more natural also highs exceptional and over all timbre spot on ...already promised set on order to fiend who loved them this aft now have to order 3rd set...these could be budget set of year although not sounding at all like any budget sets I have...actually sound
As good or better than much more expensive tribrids I have from well known companies....of course I may be heavenOlucinating

 

[Musicoflife]

With multiple sets you could report if you hear significant unit variance with the new batch as that's the main concern now

 

[ZachPtheDude]

Yes I'm an expert on placebos and double blind research I even use placebo medicine in my practice and now how to max or min placebo effects you have a right to your opinion of course... I trust my ears
I listen to music 8 hrs a day and produce live concerts I play attention closely to subtle differences and often review unreleased albums from well-known musicians to give them feedback..
We all hear differently also..

there’s a certain irony here. If you use placebo medicines within your medical practice, then I must assume you also have controls, and that you’re recording data, not simply relying on what a patient tells you they’re feeling, right?

i mean, you wouldn’t take a patient at their word on what effects they’re feeling just because they have a ton of experience taking drugs, would you?

 

[430633]

We need a Geek to take one for the team...

I'll formally bestow Chief Geek title to whomever is willing to break it open.

... That, would be literally heart-breaking

 

[AmericanSpirit]

You crazy iem guys. You only have two ears why so many?!

Touché! I want to ask myself too, it’s an abyss that hard to getting out for “not looking something different”

 

[AmericanSpirit]

With multiple sets you could report if you hear significant unit variance with the new batch as that's the main concern now

Amazon USA sells with HifiGo’s marketplace store, I may consider that as an easy return insurance options

Bad thing is I just noticed HigiGo raised the price to $55 from 46 today!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099K92JQP/

 

[AmericanSpirit]

What applies to me? I don't follow what you are saying.

IEM are sensitive to impedance change, here is someone explaining how changing cables could affect to the sound from a specialists point of view. This Japanese guy is my old review blog’s blogger friend and he also summarized burn-in measurements by various japanese reviewers back in 2010.

Chaning cable chanes the sound: yes

Is it caused by the material? : maybe but it’s the impedance afterall, adding impedance adapter could alter the sound, so does cables.

I don’t see the point of denying, it’s just a hobby and many do feel the aound changes so does cable buiness (some selling at $6k which is a pure gold digger ), people are enjoying their hobby.

I buy cable simply because I’m not a person using DAP’s EQ, so Ear tips, Cables, and Lowpass filters are my means of small trimming.

Here is a copy and paste from my old post about sound alternation:
I have various cables ranging from $15 Tripowin Zonie at the lowest other than stock cables ripped off from $5 IEMs.
Comparing $15 Zonie vs $560 Copper M2, there is an undeniably huge gap in every aspect of sound. It’s like listening to 128kbps mp3 to native DSD.
-resolution
-sound stage
-dynamic range
-coherency
-overtone presentation

But when it comes to $80 cable vs $560, the quality difference is much more of favor difference, hard to tell from my ear.

Again this cable holy war is about controversial as burn-in effects, so I’s just stop or here, my recommendation is just try it with own ear, before denying without even trying. After challenging the evaluations, if convinced, then argue whether the difference is worth the bucks.

My view toward cables is,
They are the least prioritized last resort of the contribution factors in reproduction of musiccould be composed by following:

Original mixing/mastering (20%)
Playing source format (10%)
DAP(20%)
IEM(30%)
Eartips(15%)
Cables(5%)

Thankfully ear tips(15%), and rest of 30%(mixing/format) are still in the domain of public interests, so 45% of factors are finally controllable.

Unfortunately DAP /IEM/ Cables has certain high-ballers throwing crazy prices, which I do not appreciate. I believe all human are deserved with good listening environments, music has no border, unfortunately those high-end products has border, not everyone has financial capability for spending $500 for a hobby.

And as someone participated in this market, I see the high-end prices for both IEM/Headphone starts to sky rocket, way faster than consumer price index inflationary figures, which is very sad trend.

I don’t want this trend to continue, and let this hi-fi industry to be the toy of the 1% of rich population.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/uni...nt-and-impression-thread.924844/post-16368300

What makes this hobby hard is that even if we are talking about IEM/Headphones, it only contributes 30% of whole sound reproduction, rest 70% are individually dependent variables, someone could be using $2k high-end DAP playing DSD512, and someone with generic PC dongle, playing 96kbps mp3s with a same IEM, context is very different.

 

[430633]

IEM are sensitive to impedance change, here is someone explaining how changing cables could affect to the sound from a specialists point of view. This Japanese guy is my old review blog’s blogger friend and he also summarized burn-in measurements by various japanese reviewers back in 2010.

Chaning cable chanes the sound: yes

Is it caused by the material? : maybe but it’s the impedance afterall, adding impedance adapter could alter the sound, so does cables.

I don’t see the point of denying, it’s just a hobby and many do feel the aound changes so does cable buiness (some selling at $6k which is a pure gold digger ), people are enjoying their hobby.

I buy cable simply because I’m not a person using DAP’s EQ, so Ear tips, Cables, and Lowpass filters are my means of small trimming.

Here is a copy and paste from my old post about sound alternation:
I have various cables ranging from $15 Tripowin Zonie at the lowest other than stock cables ripped off from $5 IEMs.
Comparing $15 Zonie vs $560 Copper M2, there is an undeniably huge gap in every aspect of sound. It’s like listening to 128kbps mp3 to native DSD.
-resolution
-sound stage
-dynamic range
-coherency
-overtone presentation

But when it comes to $80 cable vs $560, the quality difference is much more of favor difference, hard to tell from my ear.

Again this cable holy war is about controversial as burn-in effects, so I’s just stop or here, my recommendation is just try it with own ear, before denying without even trying. After challenging the evaluations, if convinced, then argue whether the difference is worth the bucks.

My view toward cables is,
They are the least prioritized last resort of the contribution factors in reproduction of musiccould be composed by following:

Original mixing/mastering (20%)
Playing source format (10%)
DAP(20%)
IEM(30%)
Eartips(15%)
Cables(5%)

Thankfully ear tips(15%), and rest of 30%(mixing/format) are still in the domain of public interests, so 45% of factors are finally controllable.

Unfortunately DAP /IEM/ Cables has certain high-ballers throwing crazy prices, which I do not appreciate. I believe all human are deserved with good listening environments, music has no border, unfortunately those high-end products has border, not everyone has financial capability for spending $500 for a hobby.

And as someone participated in this market, I see the high-end prices for both IEM/Headphone starts to sky rocket, way faster than consumer price index inflationary figures, which is very sad trend.

I don’t want this trend to continue, and let this hi-fi industry to be the toy of the 1% of rich population.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/uni...nt-and-impression-thread.924844/post-16368300

What makes this hobby hard is that even if we are talking about IEM/Headphones, it only contributes 30% of whole sound reproduction, rest 70% are individually dependent variables, someone could be using $2k high-end DAP playing DSD512, and someone with generic PC dongle, playing 96kbps mp3s with a same IEM, context is very different.

Yup, even with percentages, it's hard to gauge when using a piece of every equipment in the respective performance-to-price sweet spot versus using TOTL IEMs off an Apple dongle for example. It all boils down to context

 

[ZAXon 7]

My view toward cables is,
They are the least prioritized last resort of the contribution factors in reproduction of musiccould be composed by following:

Original mixing/mastering (20%)
Playing source format (10%)
DAP(20%)
IEM(30%)
Eartips(15%)
Cables(5%)

i would add to this list the software player who plays a major role in the music reproduction chain with the same weight of the IEM.
i am a software guy, and i'm surprised at how much that factor is underestimated in favor of hardware.