Forté Ears Official Discussion Thread

May 10, 2025 at 5:49 PM Post #301 of 476
Anymore thoughts on El Mefisto 🎶🌅
Maybe, it's not even closer to MB after all, based on price point. However with proper burn in, my MB edges out my EE Odin in all categories....
Enjoy MB more than Odin now everyday.

Used with DX300MAX TI/SS, DX220MAX, DC ELITE, NUNCHAKU dongles..
And D16/PB5 stack as well.
Mojo2 too.
Have to dust off my Sony 1Z and see if those Combos are great too.
 
May 10, 2025 at 5:57 PM Post #302 of 476
So should we just be saving up for the True 5k+ Ultimate Flagship too come out and skip this or wut what's the call fam
 
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May 10, 2025 at 6:03 PM Post #303 of 476
So should we just be saving up for the True 5k+ Ultimate Flagship too come out and skip this or wut what's the call fam
Too early to tell. Macbeth was S-tier tho, to me. Mefisto seems to bring its own sauce to the equation, its driver setup is also very appealing to me. I expect, big bass, clear mids, detailed yet non fatiguing highs.
 
May 10, 2025 at 10:00 PM Post #305 of 476
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Bass is also quite tight slamming and impactful with the 30 hrs burn-in. Percussions are crisp, with similar articulate airiness as with the Macbeth. And vocals crystal clear. Whilst I don't have any measurements, I feel that whilst there's probably similar bass and sub bass, it's the upper mid bass to the lower mids that it's a little different from the Macbeth's (which is where I may feel the Macbeths to be a little warmer than the Mefisto's). Because of this, personally I perceive the Mefisto to have a slightly more open and wider stage, whilst the Macbeth to have a deeper in backstage imaging.
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But I think the choice of reaching out the Mefisto or Macbeth's going to depend on genre and personal preferences.
Anymore thoughts on El Mefisto 🎶🌅
So the Mefisto has had about 141 hrs burn in, just shy of 2x of the recommended 72 hrs.

I still wouldn't call one better than the other. Most of what I said above still very much stands. Doing an immediate swap from the Mefisto to the Macbeth, mainly because of the tonal difference in the upper bass/lower mids still gives the perception that the Mefisto sounds wider in stage but the Macbeth somewhat more depth in imaging. Whilst I"m very sure this isn't solely FR differences that's causing this effect and there's a lot more other factors contributing to this.

One update I do have is that I think I'm hearing that upper dip difference that Twister6 showed in his FR curve (~3->6.5kHz, esp in the 5.5kHz part). I didn't hear it so much when I was listening to the more live vocals of Hideaki Tokunaga's Concert Tour 2023 All Best 2 album, I'm hearing it more of that difference between the Mefisto & the Macbeth in 80s pop & rock like the Top Gun album, and maybe less emphasised (but still noticeable) for Southern All Stars' Tsunami.

Especially in the Top Gun album (which I've been listening to a little more in the past hr), I think the Mefisto's slight dip upper area brings a slight (but not as much) reminiscence to the Sony MDR-Z1R closedback - granted this is based on memory as I owned that Sony probably like 7-8 yrs ago.

I won't get into the technicalities employed 'cos frankly that is not my forté (no pun intended!) and would leave it up to the real experts, but touch a little on the surface on that topic, I have to say that as a personal preference, I am a DD kinda guy. My other IEM that I like is the Rubys but I won't get into that here. The Mefisto fills that preference I seek in the Macbeth, and that's the Dynamic Driver sound. I find both the Mefisto & Macbeth to have that visceral but each to their own way. Both also have lots of room to breath in the upper end with ethereal qualities

For me, in terms of my personal preference of genre, if I'm going to listen to Pop, etc. I think I'd have a tendency to pick the Mefisto. As an overall, I think it's a more easier signature to like especially for the first 2-3 mins of listening, thereafter just drowning yourself in music whilst doing other activities (like typing this post!), or searching for things to do in Shanghai during next month's CanJam (see what I did there ;-))?

However if I were to listen to Jazz Vocals, lovey-dovey mushy soapie, music with strong vocal emphasis, or on the opposite end, simple 3-4x instrument acoustic instrumentals, and I want to do more involved or more invested listening, then I'd pick out the Macbeth.

P.S. I've not tried swapping tips, nor cables yet.
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May 12, 2025 at 9:44 AM Post #306 of 476
Just doing a bit of Baroque tip swapping (between the ones from Macbeth and yet-released Sage that comes with the Mefisto), as per one of my past posts, the Sage seems to have firmer stem compared to Macbeth's Baroques. As such, with the tips on, if you were to squeeze the openings, the Sage feels a little firmer too.

For me, I therefore I feel I don't insert the Mefistos as deep into my ear to get a firm seal. Whilst with the Macbeth's Baroques put on the Mefisto, I feel I may be inserting the IEMs (subconsciously?) in a little deeper.

Edit: also, I'm not certain (since I don't have a camera an inside my ear canals!) but I speculate that with the Sage, the opening stays up firmer whilst with Macbeth's Baroques could result in a smaller/tighter opening if inserted deep.

Sonically, Macbeth's Baroques seem give a more personal and intimate presentation to the Mefisto's than with the Sage which feels a little bit more open. For my ears at least, the differences aren't significant, but I think I can see why Eric & Riccardo say that the Sage suits the Mefisto.

NB: I've tried putting the Sage on the Macbeth yet. Will probably do so later but for now I wanna continue both Baroques on the Mefisto on different genres.
 
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May 12, 2025 at 1:01 PM Post #307 of 476
What is the weight in grams per earphone for both Mefisto and Macbeth? The Mefisto has 2 DDs dies it add any weight? Also, how does the fit compare with the quill satin thank you
 
May 13, 2025 at 1:02 PM Post #308 of 476
When will Mefisto be available in HK ?
 
May 13, 2025 at 3:09 PM Post #309 of 476
When will Mefisto be available in HK ?
Hi,

We’ll be starting shipments next week, and units will gradually roll out in batches. Our Hong Kong partners should receive their demo units and a small amount of stock before the end of the month. We’re incredibly excited to finally bring Mefisto to everyone—thank you so much for your patience and support!
 
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May 13, 2025 at 4:24 PM Post #310 of 476
Hi,

We’ll be starting shipments next week, and units will gradually roll out in batches. Our Hong Kong partners should receive their demo units and a small amount of stock before the end of the month. We’re incredibly excited to finally bring Mefisto to everyone—thank you so much for your patience and support!
O: next week?!?!
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May 15, 2025 at 10:55 PM Post #311 of 476
I just want to say that if Macbeth is perfect for Stravinsky, Mefisto is perfect for System Of A Down!
 
May 16, 2025 at 12:38 AM Post #314 of 476
Are you on the stock cable? From my very brief memory, are vocals quite prominent?

Our boy @emdeevee is rocking Temptation. None of this stock cable business for him! 😂
 
May 16, 2025 at 1:10 AM Post #315 of 476
Our boy @emdeevee is rocking Temptation. None of this stock cable business for him! 😂
This is correct! Temptation does more for Mefisto than Ambition did for Macbeth!!

If I wanted to retire, I could ♥️!
 

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