[MuZo2]

dull but consistent pay driver

 

[Pudu]

short F1 career = every US driver since Mario.

 

[MuZo2]

Should change with Haas team.

 

[customcoco]

  Should change with Haas team.

What are you talking about ? Is Haas coming-back ?

 

[Pudu]

Not Carl, Gene. Plans for 2016 I think. Wants to have a US driver - but also wants to run shop out of the US which is total fantasy.

 

[62ohm]

  dull but consistent pay driver

 
Maybe they meant consistently dull pay driver 

 

[Hutnicks]

Not Carl, Gene. Plans for 2016 I think. Wants to have a US driver - but also wants to run shop out of the US which is total fantasy.

Hey, wait, I think that's been tried before
 
Repeating the same actions and expecting different results is the clinical definition of what?
 
A) Insanity
 
B) Having more money than brains
 
C) Thinking you have more money than brains
 
D) All of the above

 

[oqvist]

Don't bash pay drivers Ronnie Eriksson and Ayrton senna and alonso all started as pay drivers

 

[MuZo2]

Don't bash pay drivers Ronnie Eriksson and Ayrton senna and alonso all started as pay drivers

Really?

 

[MuZo2]

Hey, wait, I think that's been tried before

Repeating the same actions and expecting different results is the clinical definition of what?

A) Insanity

B) Having more money than brains

C) Thinking you have more money than brains

D) All of the above

None I think. His US team is doing good. He has dedicated wind tunnel. He can use some technology and manufacturing resources in US. Design and some other stuff can be based in Europe.

 

[oqvist]

Really?

Yes most drivers in F1 has gotten sponsor help to get their first F1 seats

 

[Hutnicks]

  Yes most drivers in F1 has gotten sponsor help to get their first F1 seats

Yes but that is quite a different story from using family money to buy a seat outright. A sponsor paying the way expects return on that money and that means you have to be able to perform. Daddy writing the cheque carries no such obligation.
 
Lauda did it on family money, but it was a one time payment from his father in lieu of any further monies and he gave up his inheritance rights. That turned out fairly well for him.

 

[Exediron]

  Lauda did it on family money, but it was a one time payment from his father in lieu of any further monies and he gave up his inheritance rights. That turned out fairly well for him.

 
I thought I remember Lauda saying in an interview that his father pulled the plug at the last minute so he took out a loan against his life insurance? Either way, if Max was another Niki I think we'd have seen something by now.
 
Quote:

New guys who have never been in f1 car.they will be 1-2 sec slower than team mate.

 
You don't say?
 
FP1
LOT: 1:57.886
ERI: 1:57.977
 
FP2
ERI 1:54.050
LOT: 1:54.093
 
Pretty short seconds so far. Maybe once Markus really turns up his blistering pace for qualy he'll show that old German a thing or two!

 

 

[MuZo2]

FP1
LOT: 1:57.886
ERI: 1:57.977

FP2
ERI 1:54.050
LOT: 1:54.093

 

Decent job. Would have been more interesting to see alongside Kobayashi.

 

[oqvist]

 
Yes but that is quite a different story from using family money to buy a seat outright. A sponsor paying the way expects return on that money and that means you have to be able to perform. Daddy writing the cheque carries no such obligation.
 
Lauda did it on family money, but it was a one time payment from his father in lieu of any further monies and he gave up his inheritance rights. That turned out fairly well for him.

Well the examples I made was as much pay driver as Maldonado so there really isn´t much of a difference. The difference is that they impressed more obviously so could later get out of the pay driver niche. There is a reason why Maldonado despite his money is not in a Ferrari already