[Scutey]

Wow you got a deal on those..

I certainly did!, nearly fell off my chair when I saw them!, think I was just very lucky, right place, right time, although I had been looking everyday for the last 8 months or so, I think if you are patient, and look everyday, there are still bargains out there to be had!.

 

[tintinsnowydog]

Here is a picture of the Bendix 6080WB:

The tubes you picture look the same. I have never come across Bendix type 6080 tubes other than WB. WC should just be a minor internal modification that should not make any difference using the tube.

Is there any possibility the Raytheon 6080WC is a mislabeled tube? It really is quite strange, the construction seems identical to Bendix

https://www.bangybang.com/collectio...080-5998-premium-power-tube-bangybang-tubes-1

This is another listing I’ve seen online of Raytheon, but it’s construction is different (no ceramic plates biggest diff), same with a listing on langrex. Anyone able to solve the mystery?

 

[mordy]

Is there any possibility it is a mislabeled tube? It really is quite strange, the construction seems identical

It went through my mind that they may be mislabeled. If they are priced right I would not be afraid to buy them.

 

[tintinsnowydog]

It went through my mind that they may be mislabeled. If they are priced right I would not be afraid to buy them.

I’m being offered 90$ aud for a pair nos nib, seems a lot less than an actual Bendix 6080wb but prices for that are inflated so I’m not too sure

 

[mordy]

I’m being offered 90$ aud for a pair nos nib, seems a lot less than an actual Bendix 6080wb but prices for that are inflated so I’m not too sure

You could always pay USD$337 for a pair labeled Bendix.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bendix-Red...850371&hash=item3d7048b509:g:umIAAOSwheFaxrai
The tubes you show look like the real thing.

 

[tintinsnowydog]

You could always pay USD$337 for a pair labeled Bendix.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bendix-Red...850371&hash=item3d7048b509:g:umIAAOSwheFaxrai
The tubes you show look like the real thing.

+ another 75$ shipping for me would only consider that price for a pair of gec 6as7g

gonna take a chance with the 6080wcs I’m being offered. Hopefully I can find a proper Bendix wb to compare it to as well.

 

[UntilThen]

Raytheon have always been labelled wc and Bendix wb. You want those with solid graphite plates slotted. I have not heard a Raytheon 6080wc but those pictures look identical to my Bendix 6080wb.

At that price go for it.

 

[mordy]

+ another 75$ shipping for me

gonna take a chance with the 6080wcs I’m being offered. Hopefully I can find a proper Bendix wb to compare it to as well.

If you click on sold items in the left hand column for the eBay page you will see this:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Bendix+6080WB&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1
One pair Raytheon graphite plates went for $73 six weeks ago. If you have patience and can wait, you may be able to pick similar deals....

 

[tintinsnowydog]

If you click on sold items in the left hand column for the eBay page you will see this:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Bendix+6080WB&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1
One pair Raytheon graphite plates went for $73 six weeks ago. If you have patience and can wait, you may be able to pick similar deals....

Wow that is one very lucky guy! I’ve got all the power tubes I need to roll around with a o will just camp eBay patiently for deals now

 

[Dogmatrix]

Is there any possibility the Raytheon 6080WC is a mislabeled tube? It really is quite strange, the construction seems identical to Bendix

https://www.bangybang.com/collectio...080-5998-premium-power-tube-bangybang-tubes-1

This is another listing I’ve seen online of Raytheon, but it’s construction is different (no ceramic plates biggest diff), same with a listing on langrex. Anyone able to solve the mystery?

My father worked in the defence industry from the 1950s on and he tells me these high G tubes were made for missiles as they are not as vulnerable to a nuclear detonation EMP as a solid state electronic . Raytheon was and indeed is a very large missile manufacturer I guess they purchased the tubes from Bendix and rebranded them

 

[mordy]

My father worked in the defence industry from the 1950s on and he tells me these high G tubes were made for missiles as they are not as vulnerable to a nuclear detonation EMP as a solid state electronic . Raytheon was and indeed is a very large missile manufacturer I guess they purchased the tubes from Bendix and rebranded them

The Raytheon tubes referenced above do not have the graphite plates and are thus probably not made by Bendix. The seller, Bangybangtubes, is very high priced - a similar Raytheon pair is available today on eBay for $39 instead of $129.
Tubes with graphite plates are much heavier than tubes made with regular plates and come under several names: Tung Sol, Chatham, Bendix, Raytheon and Cetron. From what I have seen, the Cetron tubes seem to have more support rods than the same tube with the Raytheon name, even though the tubes may look the same.
You are right about vacuum tubes being more resistant to nuclear radiation than transistors - this is supposedly the reason why the Russians developed so many tubes, and we benefit from this today since very large quantities of Russian vacuum tubes are still available, even though production has ceased on some of them.
This accounts for so many new tube amps using Russian tubes. An old NOS tube may sound better in certain applications, but a tube amp manufacturer has to have a large reliable supply of tubes available, and cannot count on a couple of tubes here and there.....

 

[thecrow]

The Raytheon tubes referenced above do not have the graphite plates and are thus probably not made by Bendix. The seller, Bangybangtubes, is very high priced - a similar Raytheon pair is available today on eBay for $39 instead of $129.
Tubes with graphite plates are much heavier than tubes made with regular plates and come under several names: Tung Sol, Chatham, Bendix, Raytheon and Cetron. From what I have seen, the Cetron tubes seem to have more support rods than the same tube with the Raytheon name, even though the tubes may look the same.
You are right about vacuum tubes being more resistant to nuclear radiation than transistors - this is supposedly the reason why the Russians developed so many tubes, and we benefit from this today since very large quantities of Russian vacuum tubes are still available, even though production has ceased on some of them.
This accounts for so many new tube amps using Russian tubes. An old NOS tube may sound better in certain applications, but a tube amp manufacturer has to have a large reliable supply of tubes available, and cannot count on a couple of tubes here and there.....

i don't normally put negative vibes out there but...having said that.....
i(/we) beleive banbybangtubes is oldguyradiola - i don't even consider buying anything from that seller (based on his listings)

 

[gibosi]

Speaking of Raytheon 6080, here's an unusual one. At first glance, it might be mistaken for a Bendix, with the three ceramic spacers and metal bracing. But if you take a second look, you will notice that the plates are metal, not graphite. I have only this one tube, so I have no idea how it sounds.

 

[mordy]

The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.

User ID Effective Date End Date
bangybangtubes Mar-11-18 Present
o*************a Jun-30-12 Mar-11-18 Does this mean OLDGUYRADIOLA?
Another mystery is how this seller can have 100% feedback.

Here is a link that exposes the Old Guy:
https://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/vt.mpl?f=tubes&m=266850

 

[myphone]

Speaking of Raytheon 6080, here's an unusual one. At first glance, it might be mistaken for a Bendix, with the three ceramic spacers and metal bracing. But if you take a second look, you will notice that the plates are metal, not graphite. I have only this one tube, so I have no idea how it sounds.

Gibosi,

I have a pair, did brief listening. Sound was similar to $10 regular Raytheon 6080.






I also have Raytheon 6080 WA, WB and WC, they look the same.