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[denony]

Weren't they supposed to release 1.1.5 last week..? Either they hit a major roadblock or they are giving us something new which takes time

 
I don't know why they remain silent on the next firmware. Two days ago they wrote their "OTA server is not quite stable". But, if the firmware is ready, I thnk they can provide a direct download link on Dropbox while OTA is not working.
 
May be they think that now X5 III sales are big, there is no need to hurry with firmware releases ?

 
I hope I am wrong, and that they will update us soon....
 

  Dear antz123,
 
You can get the build number from Settings(Android mode)--About device. Our OTA server is not quite stable and we will ask our engineers to have a look at it. Sorry if bringing inconvenience.
 
Best regards  

 

[dsrk]

 
Because you said 'you don't need power for volume' and claimed it was for dynamics. 

 Not trying to bust you up, but some comments raise a flag.
 
I haven't heard the ie80 or ie800 but looking at the specs what you claim makes no sense. Could your ie800 be plugged with ear wax? I don't know, and I agree this is getting off topic. The only way to be sure is to measure the output.

 

Yes, volume is not power. My old Cowon C2 can make HD650 louder but no way closer to drive them properly.
X5 3 drives them far better than the C2 but again not to its full potential.

A 150cc bike going at 100 Kph and a 500cc or 1000cc doing same with ease, autbority and control.
Just trying to explain when people say you don't need an amp to power hard to drive phones. Even the 18 Ohms Momentum sounds better with an amp.

I know some people feel the other way but I am happy with an amp. That's what matters right.

 

[Dobrescu George]

 

   
Because you said 'you don't need power for volume' and claimed it was for dynamics. 

 
I haven't heard the ie80 or ie800 but looking at the specs what you claim makes no sense. Could your ie800 be plugged with ear wax? I don't know, and I agree this is getting off topic. The only way to be sure is to measure the output.

 

Yes, volume is not power. My old Cowon C2 can make HD650 louder but no way closer to drive them properly.
X5 3 drives them far better than the C2 but again not to its full potential.

A 150cc bike going at 100 Kph and a 500cc or 1000cc doing same with ease, autbority and control.
Just trying to explain when people say you don't need an amp to power hard to drive phones. Even the 18 Ohms Momentum sounds better with an amp.

I know some people feel the other way but I am happy with an amp. That's what matters right.

 
Of course! 

 
How you feel with what you have is the most important aspect! 

I also hear the improvements in control and authority using a strong amp with X5ii. Cannot explain how or why, but the whole sound is better controlled, there is a faster response of the driver itself. 

 

[dsrk]

I know it's off topic.

Thanks alot guys for all your responses for my amp query. They really help.

 

[dsrk]

   
Of course! 

 
How you feel with what you have is the most important aspect! 

I also hear the improvements in control and authority using a strong amp with X5ii. Cannot explain how or why, but the whole sound is better controlled, there is a faster response of the driver itself. 

 

[x RELIC x]

 
Because you said 'you don't need power for volume' and claimed it was for dynamics. 

 Not trying to bust you up, but some comments raise a flag.
 
I haven't heard the ie80 or ie800 but looking at the specs what you claim makes no sense. Could your ie800 be plugged with ear wax? I don't know, and I agree this is getting off topic. The only way to be sure is to measure the output.

 

Yes, volume is not power. My old Cowon C2 can make HD650 louder but no way closer to drive them properly.
X5 3 drives them far better than the C2 but again not to its full potential.

A 150cc bike going at 100 Kph and a 500cc or 1000cc doing same with ease, autbority and control.
Just trying to explain when people say you don't need an amp to power hard to drive phones. Even the 18 Ohms Momentum sounds better with an amp.

I know some people feel the other way but I am happy with an amp. That's what matters right.

Spoiler: Again, off topic - it's the design that matters!

Define full potential. Explain what factor is reproducing the sound better to one's ears. Power=loudness. Turn up the volume and you supply more power. Leave the volume low and you don't supply as much power. The quality of the amp will come through (good or bad) whether you supply a small or a large amount of power (volume). Also, power comes with some caveats... like... is there enough Current delivery for a particular headphone?

There are many other factors like impedance, distortion, Voltage swing, SNR, channel separation, to name a few that affect the sound quality, not just power output. It's all about the amp design, not just raw power specs is all I'm saying. For some reason many think that power output is the only factor to consider. I've heard powerful amps drive my headphones/IEMs like crap, and I've heard weaker amps drive my headphones/IEMs sublimely. Well designed gear matters, not just power (if there is already enough).

It's the same thing as when I read that balanced headphones sound better. Nope, it's the amp's balanced design that sounds better, the headphones are just playing what the amp is sending, the headphones don't change. Terminology is important or else myths are born, repeated, and it becomes truth to many, but it's wrong.

That said, I never said there is anything wrong with adding an amp, and if one prefers the amp to whatever they use as a source, or if the amp quality improves the source, then yes, that's what truly matters.

 

[Dobrescu George]

 

Spoiler: Again, off topic - it's the design that matters!

Define full potential. Explain what factor is reproducing the sound better to one's ears. Power=loudness. Turn up the volume and you supply more power. Leave the volume low and you don't supply as much power. The quality of the amp will come through (good or bad) whether you supply a small or a large amount of power (volume). Also, power comes with some caveats... like... is there enough Current delivery for a particular headphone?

There are many other factors like impedance, distortion, Voltage swing, SNR, channel separation, to name a few that affect the sound quality, not just power output. It's all about the amp design, not just raw power specs is all I'm saying. For some reason many think that power output is the only factor to consider. I've heard powerful amps drive my headphones/IEMs like crap, and I've heard weaker amps drive my headphones/IEMs sublimely. Well designed gear matters, not just power (if there is already enough).

It's the same thing as when I read that balanced headphones sound better. Nope, it's the amp's balanced design that sounds better, the headphones are just playing what the amp is sending, the headphones don't change. Terminology is important or else myths are born, repeated, and it becomes truth to many, but it's wrong.

That said, I never said there is anything wrong with adding an amp, and if one prefers the amp to whatever they use as a source, or if the amp quality improves the source, then yes, that's truly what matters.

But I really agree with you there! 

For one thing, I don't like all strong AMPs out there, and there are more things - many more things to consider! 

 

[sjb57]

   
I don't know why they remain silent on the next firmware. Two days ago they wrote their "OTA server is not quite stable". But, if the firmware is ready, I thnk they can provide a direct download link on Dropbox while OTA is not working.
 
May be they think that now X5 III sales are big, there is no need to hurry with firmware releases ?

 
I hope I am wrong, and that they will update us soon....
 

Let us hope we are next: http://www.fiio.net/en/story/552 since this is for X1-ii

 

[nekromantik]

Well new firmware for X1-ii must mean they fixed the OTA server issue.
Lets hope we see our fw today or tomorrow. 

 

[JaeYoon]

:d I really like Fiio x5iii.
I will just keep my V20 as a phone.
It's a lot lighter and easily to hold and move around.

I will be getting my Periodic MGs today will look forward to that.

Also hope they realize new firmware soon.

 

[superuser1]

Listening to Lady Fantasy - Camel on X5 III + A5 + Whizzer A15 (chi-fi) and it sounds just so melodious. I really like what im hearing 

 
 

 

[JRH1]

  Listen to Lady Fantasy - Camel on X5 III + A5 + Whizzer A15 (chi-fi) and it sounds just so melodious. I really like what im hearing 

 
Fine musik !
 
 
You hear the version from 75 or the remaster from 02 ?
 
Regards,
Jürgen

 

[superuser1]

 

  Listen to Lady Fantasy - Camel on X5 III + A5 + Whizzer A15 (chi-fi) and it sounds just so melodious. I really like what im hearing 

 
Fine musik !
 
 
You hear the version from 75 or the remaster from 02 ?
 
Regards,
Jürgen

 
Thank you!
Nimrodel is also great. AFAIK this is the 02 remaster

 

[WayTooCrazy]

I think I like Lady Fantasy. Very nice! Thanks for the introduction!

 

[superuser1]

  I think I like Lady Fantasy. Very nice! Thanks for the introduction!

 
Try this with the X5 III if you have the time.