[FiiO UTWS5] True Wireless Bluetooth Earhooks as Usual,Coupled with Independent AK4332 DAC
Oct 13, 2022 at 12:34 PM Post #1,666 of 2,559
I have toyed with the idea of buying a BTR7 or Q5k but I don’t want to give up the convenience of wireless for my use case. All
My music files are lossless, so a high end codec would benefit me, although I concede that it may not be as solid a connection in the real world.
 
Oct 13, 2022 at 2:34 PM Post #1,667 of 2,559
@FiiO , any update on next firmware release?
 
Oct 13, 2022 at 2:50 PM Post #1,668 of 2,559
Xiaomi Pad 5, Android 12, Miui Global 13.1.3. I can set 900kbps but the phone can't stay on this setting, reverting to 500kbps (this wasn't happening on redmi note 10 pro). LHDC codec can be stored under utws5 bluetooth settings.
Did anyone try any new phone with Snapdragon 8+ gen1, like Zenfone 9, Motorola Edge 30 Ultra, Oneplus 10T, Xiaomi 12T pro?
I reported earlier with my Xiaomi 12S Ultra (Xiaomi' 2022 flagship with 8+ Gen 1) that LHDC cant run at 900Kbps. So I think any phone thats able to use 900Kbps must be buggy and doesnt reflect the true value.

Also, FiiO is really quiet on this thread since last month. They are active on other product threads so I think they basically ignore this thread :frowning2:
 
Oct 13, 2022 at 9:36 PM Post #1,669 of 2,559
Okay so I just gotta know, is this indeed good enough to replace something like a Qudelix 5k? I'm using the Fiio FD5 and these are HEAVILY tempting right now.
I own both the Qudelix 5k & the utws5.
I wouldn't say the utws5 would be so much a replacement but it is definitely a lot easier to use outside or for driving or in the workplace.
Sometimes it's just good to be free of cables.
 
Oct 15, 2022 at 5:44 AM Post #1,670 of 2,559
Since I'm cheap, I balked at the cost of the OEAudio mmcx-2pin connector and was sure I could find something cheaper on Aliexpress.
Well, I could, for substantially less money you can get https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000302353396.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.35e51802Bn2ubj
It's clear from the pictures that's it's longer than the proper adapter, but I couldn't tell if this would be a problem.

They arrived this morning and do actually work - the 2pin connector was a bit tight, but there's nothing wrong with that as long as you're careful. The assembly can be worn without much difficulty:
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But ... it's impossible to arrange in a way that lets you close the lid of the case:
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So, sadly, it's not a viable option. The adapter measures 15mm from mmcx end to the end of the 2pin flange, whereas the one I'll get instead is only 8.3mm (but costs more than the iems ...). Luckily I didn't waste too much money:wink:.
 
Oct 15, 2022 at 2:50 PM Post #1,671 of 2,559
Got my new replacement UTWS5 from the distributor, still old version. Mic is working fine however too quiet and I have to basically scream to get the other side to heard my voice. Ambient mode is a bit weird when it cycles on and off constantly. Firmware v1.42
 
Oct 15, 2022 at 6:41 PM Post #1,672 of 2,559
Since I'm cheap, I balked at the cost of the OEAudio mmcx-2pin connector and was sure I could find something cheaper on Aliexpress.
Well, I could, for substantially less money you can get https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000302353396.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.35e51802Bn2ubj
It's clear from the pictures that's it's longer than the proper adapter, but I couldn't tell if this would be a problem.

They arrived this morning and do actually work - the 2pin connector was a bit tight, but there's nothing wrong with that as long as you're careful. The assembly can be worn without much difficulty:
IMG_20221015_101714.jpg

But ... it's impossible to arrange in a way that lets you close the lid of the case:
IMG_20221015_101832.jpg
So, sadly, it's not a viable option. The adapter measures 15mm from mmcx end to the end of the 2pin flange, whereas the one I'll get instead is only 8.3mm (but costs more than the iems ...). Luckily I didn't waste too much money:wink:.
I had those but they were expensive & around the same length, I could only just squeeze my ie300s in the case. But then I found these which gave me heaps of room.
 

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Oct 17, 2022 at 7:42 PM Post #1,674 of 2,559
@FiiO @FiiO Willson are we still expecting a new firmware update for the UTWS5 or has support for this ended with all the newer products you’re pushing out?
 
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Oct 18, 2022 at 11:04 PM Post #1,675 of 2,559
@FiiO @FiiO Willson are we still expecting a new firmware update for the UTWS5 or has support for this ended with all the pure new products you’re pushing out?
Dear friend,

We could not promise the time of next firmware currently. But we will release it when the new firmware is stable enough. Please give us some time. And differenct engineers are in charge of different products actually.

Best regards
 
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Oct 20, 2022 at 2:51 PM Post #1,676 of 2,559
I have been experimenting with ways to get the most out of SBC codec on this device (when I use my PC for example, without aptX support). So far I got ~800Kbps without skipping (yours might vary depends on how much noisy your 2.4GHz band is). If you sit in the middle of nowhere, you might get full 1.2Mbps bitrate of "lossless" :gs1000smile: (same settings as me, bitpool all the way to 53). How to use: setup the settingsjust like mine and start cranking the bitpool until you no longer have skipping.
Check this software: https://www.bluetoothgoodies.com/a2dp/
 

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Oct 27, 2022 at 10:00 PM Post #1,677 of 2,559
I would still love to see multipoint implemented in a firmware update. @FiiO @FiiO Willson :)
 
Oct 30, 2022 at 5:53 AM Post #1,678 of 2,559
Bluetooth connections can often have odd issues, but I've had a situation in which only the right earhook connects when taking them out of the case. The only thing that will fix this is to unpair and then re-pair the earhooks. I've had these a month, use them every day and it's happened twice so far, so it's not a major issue, but annoying when it happens, especially since speed and convenience is the whole point of these gadgets. I can't recall this ever happening with my previous TWS, which used an older QCC3020 chip.

[Edit: It turns out this was a hardware issue a used by a fault in the charging pins, waiting for a replacement.]
 
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Oct 30, 2022 at 8:12 AM Post #1,679 of 2,559
I have been experimenting with ways to get the most out of SBC codec on this device (when I use my PC for example, without aptX support). So far I got ~800Kbps without skipping (yours might vary depends on how much noisy your 2.4GHz band is). If you sit in the middle of nowhere, you might get full 1.2Mbps bitrate of "lossless" :gs1000smile: (same settings as me, bitpool all the way to 53). How to use: setup the settingsjust like mine and start cranking the bitpool until you no longer have skipping.
Check this software: https://www.bluetoothgoodies.com/a2dp/
Was doing this with Linux, wasnt aware that a windows solution has been made. Nice find.
 
Oct 31, 2022 at 9:14 AM Post #1,680 of 2,559
Wanted to report that on new phones oneplus10t no lhdc supprt only aptx adaptive and also had big hopes with nothing1 phone which from version 1..4 supports lhdc but somehow with utws5 only aptx adaptive max what i can get. Even in developer options you see lhdc but on device setting hd sound is only aptx adaptive available. So dont know if this from nothing developers or other reasons. Interesting if someone has nothing phone do they get lhdc to any bluetooth supported device?
 

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