[misteral201103]

Just wanted to add that for "end game" TWS system, using UTWS3 as a base, I think it would make sense to try out Fiio's own IEMs. Pretty sure they would have great synergy...

 

[FiiO]

Can anyone from @FiiO comment on when these will be stocked in the UK. If already stocked in the UK, who has it? Tried some of the usual suspects, no luck. Still happily running an X5 III, tried my FA7 on the Shure TW1, and they just aren't as good as compared to being wired. I suspect this is something to do with the TW1's not having any volume control on them. Really keen to get hold of the UTWS3.

Dear friend,

We are arranging the shipping of the UTWS3 to some agents. And we will update to you again after arranging the shipping to the UK sellers.

Best regards

 

[hamlesh]

We are arranging the shipping of the UTWS3 to some agents. And we will update to you again after arranging the shipping to the UK sellers.

Which agents, and when? Happy to get a pre-order in with someone

 

[FiiO Willson]

Right back at you, Willson! I am not a BT person at all, wired all the way. Absolutely blown away by the quality of sound from the UTWS3, and the fact that you have created a product so PERFECTLY suited to those of us who have multiple (or even one) sets of IEMs and have been forced to go wireless for their phones.

There is very little compromise in SQ here. Love them.

Thank you for your high praise.
We always try to bring our users better audio products and experiences, and I hope you have good suggestions to share with me!

 

[Coconut Wireles]

I just got my UTWS3 in MMCX today. It took pretty much a month to get to me through Aliexpress which really sucks but on the bright side this thing is impressive. I had planned on using it with my W30 or Lyra II but it surprised me on the Andromedas and I've been enjoying them all day. It isn't going to be for sit down critical listening but it sounds great.

The comfort is great, the case fits everything nicely, and I like the controls so far. With some refinement in the pairing and the controls, and then adding AptX HD or even LDAC, and then increasing battery life just a bit more, I'd buy the next version without hesitation. Yes more battery isn't all that necessary but they could actually be a little bigger without taking away from the comfort. Oh also, a passive mode so we can hear around us or people talking to us without pulling out the earphone would be a big win for me too.

Anyways, really enjoying this a lot more than I expected to. Please keep up the good work and push for more in future iterations of this formula please.

 

[FiiO Willson]

I just got my UTWS3 in MMCX today. It took pretty much a month to get to me through Aliexpress which really sucks but on the bright side this thing is impressive. I had planned on using it with my W30 or Lyra II but it surprised me on the Andromedas and I've been enjoying them all day. It isn't going to be for sit down critical listening but it sounds great.

The comfort is great, the case fits everything nicely, and I like the controls so far. With some refinement in the pairing and the controls, and then adding AptX HD or even LDAC, and then increasing battery life just a bit more, I'd buy the next version without hesitation. Yes more battery isn't all that necessary but they could actually be a little bigger without taking away from the comfort. Oh also, I passive mode so we can hear around us or people talking to use without pulling out the earphone would be a big win for me too.

Anyways, really enjoying this a lot more than I expected to. Please keep up the good work and push for more in future iterations of this formula please.

 

[FiiO]

I just got my UTWS3 in MMCX today. It took pretty much a month to get to me through Aliexpress which really sucks but on the bright side this thing is impressive. I had planned on using it with my W30 or Lyra II but it surprised me on the Andromedas and I've been enjoying them all day. It isn't going to be for sit down critical listening but it sounds great.

The comfort is great, the case fits everything nicely, and I like the controls so far. With some refinement in the pairing and the controls, and then adding AptX HD or even LDAC, and then increasing battery life just a bit more, I'd buy the next version without hesitation. Yes more battery isn't all that necessary but they could actually be a little bigger without taking away from the comfort. Oh also, a passive mode so we can hear around us or people talking to us without pulling out the earphone would be a big win for me too.

Anyways, really enjoying this a lot more than I expected to. Please keep up the good work and push for more in future iterations of this formula please.

Thanks for your kind feedback.
Currently, TWS only supports aptX. For the better-quality LHDC, it has not yet been tested when being applied to TWS products. And it is left aside by most of the products in the market. But at least we can know that this codec has a great chance to be carried on TWS in the future.

Best regards

 

[Coconut Wireles]

Thanks for your kind feedback.
Currently, TWS only supports aptX. For the better-quality LHDC, it has not yet been tested when being applied to TWS products. And it is left aside by most of the products in the market. But at least we can know that this codec has a great chance to be carried on TWS in the future.

Best regards

I understand there are definitely limitations and choices to make in regards to just practicality and good sense but I'm liking how this is evolving and am excited to see what the future holds for the UTWS line.

 

[ClarenceKyle]

Got my UTWS3 this week and was waiting to be allowed to post here to ask for HELP! At first I thought they sounded terrible compared to wired and was surprised. Then I noticed frequent, light clicking noises, similar to a micro-delay in the music. I confirmed my set has the latest firmware and could not find anywhere on-line what the problem might be. So I ignored the UTWS3 for a short while. Then I thought "maybe it'll be different with different IEMs, as maybe it's a impedance or other compatibility issue." Tried different set, sounded fine! Went back to other CIEM, and sounded fine again! Not sure what the problem was but largely went away.

I say "largely" as I notice occasional skips in the music, which I suspect is a bluetooth signal issue, even though my DAP is on my desk < 1m from the earphones. Any idea how to make this intermittent problem go away?

I am very pleased to be able to use my CIEMs wirelessly finally. I must admit even ignoring the occasional music skips/hiccups, it's not as good as wired. But perhaps 90-95% as good, and worth it in many situations not to have a wire, particularly when I step out.

Thanks all on this thread. Reading your impressions convinced me to give this product a try

 

[FiiO]

Got my UTWS3 this week and was waiting to be allowed to post here to ask for HELP! At first I thought they sounded terrible compared to wired and was surprised. Then I noticed frequent, light clicking noises, similar to a micro-delay in the music. I confirmed my set has the latest firmware and could not find anywhere on-line what the problem might be. So I ignored the UTWS3 for a short while. Then I thought "maybe it'll be different with different IEMs, as maybe it's a impedance or other compatibility issue." Tried different set, sounded fine! Went back to other CIEM, and sounded fine again! Not sure what the problem was but largely went away.

I say "largely" as I notice occasional skips in the music, which I suspect is a bluetooth signal issue, even though my DAP is on my desk < 1m from the earphones. Any idea how to make this intermittent problem go away?

I am very pleased to be able to use my CIEMs wirelessly finally. I must admit even ignoring the occasional music skips/hiccups, it's not as good as wired. But perhaps 90-95% as good, and worth it in many situations not to have a wire, particularly when I step out.

Thanks all on this thread. Reading your impressions convinced me to give this product a try

Dear friend,

1. You could try to set the volume of player/mobile phone to max, then adjust the volume via the UTWS3 and check again?
2. And you could also do a factory restore for the UTWS3 in following methods:
Keep the ear hooks inside, and then long-press the multifunction button of the charging case for 12s after opening the case lid.
Or from the FiiO Control app:

Best regards

 

[ClarenceKyle]

Dear friend,

1. You could try to set the volume of player/mobile phone to max, then adjust the volume via the UTWS3 and check again?
2. And you could also do a factory restore for the UTWS3 in following methods:
Keep the ear hooks inside, and then long-press the multifunction button of the charging case for 12s after opening the case lid.
Or from the FiiO Control app:



Best regards

Thanks for the quick response. Did it, but still get intermittent cut-off of music. Do you think I'm correct in guessing it's a BT connection issue?

 

[ClarenceKyle]

I've done more A/B'ing of using UTWS3 versus wired of the same CIEM. The gap is larger than I had stated before, which again I think is predominantly a BT / AptX issue more than a UTWS3 issue, although frankly it could be both, since I do not have another BT-IEM adapter. I'd revise to say now that going BT gets one about 80% of the performance. For calibration purposes, I'd say going balanced or improved DAC/DAP is about 5% difference, i.e., can be noticeable but need to A/B carefully. For a range of music--symphonic, chamber, rock, vocals, jazz--similar differences: mid-range loses its richness, more grainy sound, more artificial sounding lower treble, lose deep bass, poorer instrument isolation.

Am I disappointed? No. To me it's still worth using my CIEMs wireless when I go outside, getting the superior sound and isolation of CIEMs over my Sennheiser Momentum or Sony WF-1000XM3. Only disappointment is the intermittent BT signal loss I mentioned before. Since I'm using the BT when I'm out and about, and therefore not doing careful listening, and the cut outs are infrequent, I'm not terribly bothered, though it's still annoying. So I'd recommend the UTWS3 to others, as long as one manages expectations that the best sound from good IEMs will still require a wire.

 

[Ocelitgol]

I've done more A/B'ing of using UTWS3 versus wired of the same CIEM. The gap is larger than I had stated before, which again I think is predominantly a BT / AptX issue more than a UTWS3 issue, although frankly it could be both, since I do not have another BT-IEM adapter. I'd revise to say now that going BT gets one about 80% of the performance. For calibration purposes, I'd say going balanced or improved DAC/DAP is about 5% difference, i.e., can be noticeable but need to A/B carefully. For a range of music--symphonic, chamber, rock, vocals, jazz--similar differences: mid-range loses its richness, more grainy sound, more artificial sounding lower treble, lose deep bass, poorer instrument isolation.

Am I disappointed? No. To me it's still worth using my CIEMs wireless when I go outside, getting the superior sound and isolation of CIEMs over my Sennheiser Momentum or Sony WF-1000XM3. Only disappointment is the intermittent BT signal loss I mentioned before. Since I'm using the BT when I'm out and about, and therefore not doing careful listening, and the cut outs are infrequent, I'm not terribly bothered, though it's still annoying. So I'd recommend the UTWS3 to others, as long as one manages expectations that the best sound from good IEMs will still require a wire.

Now all we need is for the UTWS5 to support LDAC => perfect modules.

Speaking of which, if anyone wanna trade their UTWS3 for Qudelix 5k, do let me know. Trying to get an additional one for my brother.

 

[FiiO Willson]

Now all we need is for the UTWS5 to support LDAC => perfect modules.

Speaking of which, if anyone wanna trade their UTWS3 for Qudelix 5k, do let me know. Trying to get an additional one for my brother.

Hi,
Whether LDAC is supported or not depends on the level of the Sony LDAC team, who currently do not have perfect code for use in TWS, including even the current mainstream chips, the QCC51xx and QCC304x, for which they have no mature code.
Since the patents are in Sony's hands and LDAC still has to be refilled by them,
We will have to wait for them to resolve these issues and release them before we can use them.

 

[Ocelitgol]

Hi,
Whether LDAC is supported or not depends on the level of the Sony LDAC team, who currently do not have perfect code for use in TWS, including even the current mainstream chips, the QCC51xx and QCC304x, for which they have no mature code.
Since the patents are in Sony's hands and LDAC still has to be refilled by them,
We will have to wait for them to resolve these issues and release them before we can use them.

Does this mean we have no way to predict approximate time it might be even available?
This is pushing it, but just wondering if UTWS5 is in the work
I know UTWS3 is fairly new but given how great it is, I can't help but looking forward to the next implementation.