Sonic Defender
Headphoneus Supremus
The Q5 and Q5s are not DAPs, but I suspect you know that. I actually use HF Player with my phone, and I agree a phone and good music players can make it all you need. But people like DAPs, and there are times I would prefer to have a music player separate from my phone, but it isn't a major issue for me. I am glad that there are still great DAPs out there because they can literally be a perfect standalone music system and when it comes to real power production, the amplification sections in really good DAPs can destroy the best phones.I don’t get the market for DAP’s when there are good software players (Onkyp HF) available for phones. Even if you want a dedicated device or more storage etc. I’m sure you could buy an older/mid range phone for much cheaper than a DAP.