[KopaneDePooj]

I can, but it is putting too much pressure on them. Either of the cable or either of the socket is going to break extremely fast.

Oh, I guess my 2.5 connector is smaller because there's no pressure. But anyways, for me balanced connection is just for home use with my HD6XX. I guess it could be problematic if there's pressure and you also walk around with it.

 

[FiiO]

fiio can you confirm that Q5S WILL NOT work as USB amp for Astell and Kern SP1000 AND Hidizs AP80 on Bluetooth??????

Dear friend,

The Q5s doesn't support Bluetooth output.
From a technical point of view and actual measurement, Q5s can work with most of the TYPE C interface Android phones, with FiiO Music to complete lossless and DSD decoding. However, not all Android phones can output standard USB audio. Even if a certain version of a model is supported, it may not be supported in the next version. So we can't publicize and promise this feature. If you want to use with Android phones, recommend a special OTG line, such as the FiiO CL06, and consult customer service methods and adaptations in advance. We don't promise that there is no problem with connecting Android phones.

Best regards

 

[FiiO]

Can you guys and @FiiO check with Windows PC? - the auto standby function does not work for me when PC USB connected and no music is playing. This used to work with the Q5. With the Q5s the auto standby only works with Bluetooth.

Dear friend,
When Q5s is in non-working state, that is, there is no input source or there is input source but no signal input, it will enter power-saving standby after reaching the set time (the default setting is 10 minutes).Power saving shutdown time can be set through the relevant APP.
In low-power standby mode, short press the input selection button to wake up without rotating the knob
(when connected by bluetooth, even if music is not played, the system will have various audio signals output, so it will work through the bluetooth state.)
The state of your Q5s is opposite to this FAQ, right?
Please try to reset the Q5s by poling the reset button in the left side and set again?

Best regards

 

[FiiO]

I got the Q5s with the THX module and sound is pretty good. However, I'm hearing a decent amount of background hiss. Granted, I'm trying these with my new 4 ohm EE Wraith but compared to my other sources, it's the worse. I hear this both in wired and wireless modes. Is this consistent with what others are experiencing with sensitive IEMs?

Edit - using balanced out.

Dear friend,

Do you have other balanced headphone for check as well?

Best regards

 

[wackoip]

Dear friend,

The Q5s doesn't support Bluetooth output.
From a technical point of view and actual measurement, Q5s can work with most of the TYPE C interface Android phones, with FiiO Music to complete lossless and DSD decoding. However, not all Android phones can output standard USB audio. Even if a certain version of a model is supported, it may not be supported in the next version. So we can't publicize and promise this feature. If you want to use with Android phones, recommend a special OTG line, such as the FiiO CL06, and consult customer service methods and adaptations in advance. We don't promise that there is no problem with connecting Android phones.

Best regards

Sorry you have misunderstood both of my questions and have answered none of them

Astell & Kern SP1000 is not a phone? It’s a DAP like M11?
And I’m talking about using Q5S as Bluetooth receiver receiving bt signal from iPhone which it did very well. Why didn’t AP80 see Q5S at all like iphone or M11 or other DAPs?

 

[hoekeat]

Fiio has a pretty nice 4.4mm male to 2.5mm female adapter that you can get for not too much money. If you can't find any other solution, you can try it. 4.4mm out is unobstructed by the CL06.

That is about USD20, other solutions on eBay cost a bit more than USD10. Not sure how they compared, some recommendation from existing user will be good. Point being, I got CL-06 from Fiio thinking of a nice set up. Have never thought of a situation where I need to buy even more stuff to make it work.

 

[bflat]

Dear friend,

Do you have other balanced headphone for check as well?

Best regards

Yes I do, but my intended use of the Q5s is with the Wraith so I am going to use the AM3E.

 

[Victorfabius]

Sorry you have misunderstood both of my questions and have answered none of them

Astell & Kern SP1000 is not a phone? It’s a DAP like M11?
And I’m talking about using Q5S as Bluetooth receiver receiving bt signal from iPhone which it did very well. Why didn’t AP80 see Q5S at all like iphone or M11 or other DAPs?

A&K SP1000 uses the USB-C form factor, as does the Hidizs AP80. The pin configuration on those devices are determined by the manufacturer, not by some international standard. They might have a pin for power where others might have a pin for data, for example. The Hidizs in particular has a configuration to allow for a USB-C to 3.5mm coax out, if I recall correctly. The A&K SP1000 might be using a pin as an extra power pin to enable faster charging. What this means is that the OTG cable you have might not be compatible with those devices and the pin layout on the micro-USB port on the Q5S. I do not know of any way to determine OTG cable compatibility without testing.

What FiiO really means is that an entire industry (manufacturers who use USB-C ports, specifically) is lacking sufficient standards for FiiO to be able to say that any USB-C device will be compatible outside their own products. They likely can't test them all. Of course, an engineer might be better able to make that determination without testing, but I'm guessing there.

 

[tolis626]

What @Victorfabius said is very very true. As much as I dislike Apple, they have nailed one thing completely : consistency. If you buy something that's designed to work with the iPhone, it works with any iPhone or iPad or whatever. But with Android devices (and their derivatives), let alone custom devices like DAPs that don't rely on any standardization process, you can't make sure it works with everything. Fiio has no blame in this. So far, for me, their devices have been pretty much plug-n-play, but my devices include my Windows 10 PC and my OnePlus 3, so nothing crazy. If you're using a device that has some obscure specs or configuration, then it's entirely up to you to figure out why pairing it with other devices doesn't work for you. That's the sad truth and I sympathize with anyone who got an otherwise kickass device that just isn't compatible with much else.

With that said, that's one of the wonderful thing about the Q5s' bluetooth capabilities. Bluetooth is pretty much standard on any device that has it, and the Q5s has no appreciable quality loss when going wireless.

 

[wackoip]

A&K SP1000 uses the USB-C form factor, as does the Hidizs AP80. The pin configuration on those devices are determined by the manufacturer, not by some international standard. They might have a pin for power where others might have a pin for data, for example. The Hidizs in particular has a configuration to allow for a USB-C to 3.5mm coax out, if I recall correctly. The A&K SP1000 might be using a pin as an extra power pin to enable faster charging. What this means is that the OTG cable you have might not be compatible with those devices and the pin layout on the micro-USB port on the Q5S. I do not know of any way to determine OTG cable compatibility without testing.

What FiiO really means is that an entire industry (manufacturers who use USB-C ports, specifically) is lacking sufficient standards for FiiO to be able to say that any USB-C device will be compatible outside their own products. They likely can't test them all. Of course, an engineer might be better able to make that determination without testing, but I'm guessing there.

Ah got ya! Very clear answer thank you very much. I guess they don't want to reply to me directly that they can't test every USB C device, which to me is reasonable. I just want to confirm they are not compatible. I don't buy the Q5S JUST for AK1000 so it's not a deal breaker. I think it would be helpful if they have a compatibility list for devices and cables for other purchasers who specifically buy Q5S for a specific purpose. Just a suggestion.

Still no answer for why Hidizs AP80 can't find Q5S in the available device list in Bluetooth connection, sigh.......

 

[FiiO]

Ah got ya! Very clear answer thank you very much. I guess they don't want to reply to me directly that they can't test every USB C device, which to me is reasonable. I just want to confirm they are not compatible. I don't buy the Q5S JUST for AK1000 so it's not a deal breaker. I think it would be helpful if they have a compatibility list for devices and cables for other purchasers who specifically buy Q5S for a specific purpose. Just a suggestion.

Still no answer for why Hidizs AP80 can't find Q5S in the available device list in Bluetooth connection, sigh.......

Dear friend,

Is your Q5s in pairing mode(flashing blue and red alternately) at that time?

Best regards

 

[wackoip]

Dear friend,

Is your Q5s in pairing mode(flashing blue and red alternately) at that time?

Best regards

Yes, I have been pairing with several devices successfully so I do know the procedures but AP80 did not recognise Q5S for some reason. Please note that I was not the only one having this problem with AP80. If you check my post earlier on another user also have this problem. He was asking me whether I have the same problem and that's how I found out. Again not blaming you guys as every brand may have their own hardware /software configuration which makes it difficult. I just want to confirm at this stage whether it is supposed to work or not.

 

[KopaneDePooj]

Ah got ya! Very clear answer thank you very much. I guess they don't want to reply to me directly that they can't test every USB C device, which to me is reasonable. I just want to confirm they are not compatible. I don't buy the Q5S JUST for AK1000 so it's not a deal breaker. I think it would be helpful if they have a compatibility list for devices and cables for other purchasers who specifically buy Q5S for a specific purpose. Just a suggestion.

Still no answer for why Hidizs AP80 can't find Q5S in the available device list in Bluetooth connection, sigh.......

Maybe you can take this with Astell&Kern, see if their device is non USB-C standard and if they can provide you with a custom cable that works with USB DACs. Just a thought.

 

[wangtox]

Just got my Q5s to demo against the Chord Mojo I got over the weekend. Honestly I think I may like the Q5s paired with my JH Audio Roxannes. Mojo seems too veiled compared. I need to do a lot more A/B to figure out which one I'm going to keep though.

I did have an issue with my iPhone XS Max and camera adapter, it said the device was trying to use too much power. I thought this would run entirely off the battery and not use my phone battery? Is it maybe that it just had a low charge out of the box?

 

[maxngck]

Just got my Q5s to demo against the Chord Mojo I got over the weekend. Honestly I think I may like the Q5s paired with my JH Audio Roxannes. Mojo seems too veiled compared. I need to do a lot more A/B to figure out which one I'm going to keep though.

I did have an issue with my iPhone XS Max and camera adapter, it said the device was trying to use too much power. I thought this would run entirely off the battery and not use my phone battery? Is it maybe that it just had a low charge out of the box?

Q5S does have this issue on the back charging from your equipment connected to it. In the previous post there was solution on this with the condition of using an OTG cable which is to turn on both devices then plug in the OTG cable. However, this does not work for me. What cable you are using to connect your phone to Q5S?