[FiiO M17] Dual ES9038PRO, dual THXAAA-788+, dual power supplies, 9200mAh battery, 2 volume control modes
Jan 7, 2022 at 1:11 AM Post #1,951 of 5,692
Did you mean daC mode? I'm mostly using it as a DAC on my computer haha. The Spec sheet says in USB mode you can get 768.

I think at least in DAC mode with a Windows 10 music player, the M17 can provide 768mhz ...
I just tested with Neutron Player, in DAP mode with an external DAC at 16x oversampling can provide 768mhz to the external DAC (it's limited to 384 mhz if I disconnect the external DAC)
 
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Jan 7, 2022 at 2:48 AM Post #1,952 of 5,692
I think at least in DAC mode with a Windows 10 music player, the M17 can provide 768mhz ...
I just tested with Neutron Player, in DAP mode with an external DAC at 16x oversampling can provide 768mhz to the external DAC (it's limited to 384 mhz if I disconnect the external DAC)
Yes, the M17 supports up to 384k/DSD256 under local playback mode: https://www.fiio.com/m17_parameters

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Jan 7, 2022 at 4:20 AM Post #1,956 of 5,692
So in the end, it can't have mqa in DAC mode because it uses the xmos xu 208 instead of the 216. Just like I said. There are too many professors in here
Yes, and that is very strange that in such "not cheap" player they not implemented xmos216 for full MQA decoding. Even ifi zen dac v2 has xmos216 which is 10 times cheapier.
 
Jan 7, 2022 at 4:20 AM Post #1,957 of 5,692
Yes, you are right, XMOS 216 has more resource to handle more features . M17 is used XMOS 208 which has limited resource so we can't make it support MQA .
Thanks for heads up! One question: M15 has the same XUF208 microcontroller and received MQA support with one of firmware updates: https://www.fiio.com/newsinfo/430684.html
What are limitations in M17 comparing to M15?
 
Jan 7, 2022 at 4:40 AM Post #1,960 of 5,692
Thanks for heads up! One question: M15 has the same XUF208 microcontroller and received MQA support with one of firmware updates: https://www.fiio.com/newsinfo/430684.html
What are limitations in M17 comparing to M15?
I don't think any of the FiiO devies, including Q5s and M15, with 208 support MQA over USB. The ones that play MQA all depend on the main controller (and only Android / DAP mode) which is not available in USB DAC mode.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/fiio-q5s-type-c-‖-q5s-bluetooth-dsd-capable-amplifier-ak4493x2-768k-32bit.902614/page-16#post-15000341
 
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Jan 7, 2022 at 4:58 AM Post #1,961 of 5,692
Jan 7, 2022 at 5:01 AM Post #1,962 of 5,692
Finally, I also crossed to the dark side!)

So far, I'm just listening to IEM headphones. The sound delivery is a little different from that of the DX300. The brain has not yet adapted.
From an unpleasant note, I noticed that the player heats up quite a lot when playing music. And the battery is melting right before our eyes!
Is it like that for everyone?

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Jan 7, 2022 at 5:05 AM Post #1,963 of 5,692
Jan 7, 2022 at 5:48 AM Post #1,964 of 5,692
Finally, I also crossed to the dark side!)

So far, I'm just listening to IEM headphones. The sound delivery is a little different from that of the DX300. The brain has not yet adapted.
From an unpleasant note, I noticed that the player heats up quite a lot when playing music. And the battery is melting right before our eyes!
Is it like that for everyone?

Are you happy with sound upgrade of m17 compared to dx300? :) I'm very interested in this comparison, how much these differ in Sound Quality and Sound Signature :)
 
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Jan 7, 2022 at 6:13 AM Post #1,965 of 5,692
Yes, and that is very strange that in such "not cheap" player they not implemented xmos216 for full MQA decoding. Even ifi zen dac v2 has xmos216 which is 10 times cheapier.

it is quite normal cause we start M17 in two years ago,also there are very bad situatiom to purchase almost every IC.
 
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