[shagathlete]

I was getting an issue like this and changed usb port to one that was not able to give too much power to the M11 and the noise stopped.

Hope this helps.

Juj

I was wondering if that made a difference. It's happened on the usb 2 and usb 3 ports on the front of my case. I'll have to check my motherboard and case specs to see if there is a lower power option.

 

[salla45]

This has been discussed already, just do a thread search for digital filter settings. And no it's not snake oil but the changes are very subtle. Basically sharp roll off has a bit more treble energy and slow roll off has a smoother sound. One is an abrupt shelf drop at the cut off frequency and the other is a more gentle slope to the cut off.

thanks mate. That's a good start for dabbling with them

 

[Bitsir]

I got the M11 few days ago. Everything is good. Really good actually. Except one thing... The sound..

Out of 3,5mm SE:

Subbass is so, so weak. It lacks density, depth and physicality. It's like the point of origin of the bass is too far from you. You can hear the bass but you can't really feel it.

The entire presentation (stage) seems distant to me. Stage width is really disappointing, even my lowly OnePlus 5 smartphone has a much wider stage probably like 40-50% wider. Depth is OK, height is OK.
Yes the M11 is more detailed but it's got a pretty bad case of digititus which makes everything sound artificial and too analytical. Am I crazy here or does anyone know what I'm talking about here?

I got a balanced 4.4mm cable coming in a few days, what can I expect will happen to the sound through balanced connection?

 

[zeroselect]

I got the M11 few days ago. Everything is good. Really good actually. Except one thing... The sound..

Out of 3,5mm SE:

Subbass is so, so weak. It lacks density, depth and physicality. It's like the point of origin of the bass is too far from you. You can hear the bass but you can't really feel it.

The entire presentation (stage) seems distant to me. Stage width is really disappointing, even my lowly OnePlus 5 smartphone has a much wider stage probably like 40-50% wider. Depth is OK, height is OK.
Yes the M11 is more detailed but it's got a pretty bad case of digititus which makes everything sound artificial and too analytical. Am I crazy here or does anyone know what I'm talking about here?

I got a balanced 4.4mm cable coming in a few days, what can I expect will happen to the sound through balanced connection?

What are headphones/IEM are you using?

 

[DrKrFfXx]

I got the M11 few days ago. Everything is good. Really good actually. Except one thing... The sound..

Out of 3,5mm SE:

Subbass is so, so weak. It lacks density, depth and physicality. It's like the point of origin of the bass is too far from you. You can hear the bass but you can't really feel it.

The entire presentation (stage) seems distant to me. Stage width is really disappointing, even my lowly OnePlus 5 smartphone has a much wider stage probably like 40-50% wider. Depth is OK, height is OK.
Yes the M11 is more detailed but it's got a pretty bad case of digititus which makes everything sound artificial and too analytical. Am I crazy here or does anyone know what I'm talking about here?

I got a balanced 4.4mm cable coming in a few days, what can I expect will happen to the sound through balanced connection?

I don't follow. The stage seems distant, yet is narrow at the same time?

 

[Bitsir]

What are headphones/IEM are you using?

1More Quad, Nighthawk, HD650, Acoustune HS1551 CU, Oriolus Reborn.

 

[zeroselect]

1More Quad, Nighthawk, HD650, Acoustune HS1551 CU, Oriolus Reborn.

I have no experience with any you have listed.

Are you using Hi Gain?

I have notice with most of what i running even though I have enough volume i need more power to run the bass the way i want it.

Try it on balanced and tells us what its like after that.

 

[abitdeef]

I got the M11 few days ago. Everything is good. Really good actually. Except one thing... The sound..

Out of 3,5mm SE:

Subbass is so, so weak. It lacks density, depth and physicality. It's like the point of origin of the bass is too far from you. You can hear the bass but you can't really feel it.

The entire presentation (stage) seems distant to me. Stage width is really disappointing, even my lowly OnePlus 5 smartphone has a much wider stage probably like 40-50% wider. Depth is OK, height is OK.
Yes the M11 is more detailed but it's got a pretty bad case of digititus which makes everything sound artificial and too analytical. Am I crazy here or does anyone know what I'm talking about here?

I got a balanced 4.4mm cable coming in a few days, what can I expect will happen to the sound through balanced connection?

You can expect a wider stage with balanced and more focus on the entire spectrum. Still going to be on the digital side sound wise though, but most resolving daps sound like that.

Unless Sony, z1, cayin n8, colofly u8, actually zx300 is sort of natural sounding.

 

[Bitsir]

I don't follow. The stage seems distant, yet is narrow at the same time?

This is what I experience: https://i.gyazo.com/fd36d9ff8edd8c6b9a523738c49b09f3.png (Dont take the illustration literally, its a bit emphasized for the sake of making the point clearer.

The Oneplus stage puts the instruments closer to you but has more room to echo outwards, making it difficult to sense the end or walls of the stage.

The stage of the M11 puts the instruments farther away from you but yet has a narrower more focused stage and so you you more clearly hear the end of the stage.

 

[Bitsir]

I have no experience with any you have listed.

Are you using Hi Gain?

I have notice with most of what i running even though I have enough volume i need more power to run the bass the way i want it.

Try it on balanced and tells us what its like after that.

Hi gain is on yes. So you also hear the lack of bass intensity? It is actually pretty severe if you ask me. It is like the M11 puts the sound through a filter or DSP to make everything sound distant and de-coupled from your head or vicinity.

 

[Bitsir]

You can expect a wider stage with balanced and more focus on the entire spectrum. Still going to be on the digital side sound wise though, but most resolving daps sound like that.

Unless Sony, z1, cayin n8, colofly u8, actually zx300 is sort of natural sounding.

Bad Guy Good Audio on Youtube says that using the Oriolus BA300s with the M11 pretty much equals the Cayin N8.

Does adding tube amplification widen and sweeten the sound I wonder? Make it more physical and organic sounding?

 

[DrKrFfXx]

This is what I experience: https://i.gyazo.com/fd36d9ff8edd8c6b9a523738c49b09f3.png .

I see. I don't have an HD650 to compare, but an HD58X.

In my limited experience, comparing the M11 with a Cayin N3, the Cayin hits a harder on the sub bass, and has more body than the M11, but lacks control and definition, specially on the bass string notes, which sound very detailed on the M11.

The N3 sounds narrower tho, the bass notes sound closer, although much less "digital", darker.

This is from the 3.5 output.

I only have the balanced cable for my Sony XBA N3. Going from single ended to balanced enhances a tad bit the soundstage, but it also sounds a tad brighter, it does nothing for the bass impact.

I'd say the bass can sound a bit anemic on the M11 even with all its powerful amp.

 

[abitdeef]

Bad Guy Good Audio on Youtube says that using the Oriolus BA300s with the M11 pretty much equals the Cayin N8.

Does adding tube amplification widen and sweeten the sound I wonder? Make it more physical and organic sounding?

I would imagine that it would pretty much do the same thing, but that amp isn't easy to get.

 

[Sven2015]

I got the M11 few days ago. Everything is good. Really good actually. Except one thing... The sound..

Out of 3,5mm SE:

Subbass is so, so weak. It lacks density, depth and physicality. It's like the point of origin of the bass is too far from you. You can hear the bass but you can't really feel it.

The entire presentation (stage) seems distant to me. Stage width is really disappointing, even my lowly OnePlus 5 smartphone has a much wider stage probably like 40-50% wider. Depth is OK, height is OK.
Yes the M11 is more detailed but it's got a pretty bad case of digititus which makes everything sound artificial and too analytical. Am I crazy here or does anyone know what I'm talking about here?

I got a balanced 4.4mm cable coming in a few days, what can I expect will happen to the sound through balanced connection?

Use another app. The FiiO app sucks in EQ! The predecessors M7 & M9, too.

 

[zeroselect]

I would imagine that it would pretty much do the same thing, but that amp isn't easy to get.

I have one coming my way from Penon Audio. I think they still have some in stock. This will be my first tube so i'm not going to be much help on impressions.