[EdgeDC]

I already asked and learned via the FiiO Facebook page that the BTR7 will not have Line Out mode, even on the 3.5mm jack. This is disappointing, as I believe the device would be perfect for connecting to a car stereo Line In jack, and leaving in the car 24/7 (attached to switched power, of course, and hidden from view when the car is parked). As good as the built-in THX amps may be, they are obviously unnecessary when connecting to an external amplifier, and amplifying twice is both unnecessary and may introduce more distortion.

It would be awesome if, like most of the X-series and M-series FiiO DAPs, there was a "Line Out mode" selectable to change the 3.5mm jack between amplified and fixed line-level. It's not as though FiiO hasn't done this before!

Is there any chance that this feature could be added via a software update?

 

[FiiO Willson]

Is there a battery bypass mode like on Mojo 2 for use in desktop setup?

In this mode, you can not to charge the BTR7, and the power consumption of the battery is less at this time

 

[FiiO Willson]

I already asked and learned via the FiiO Facebook page that the BTR7 will not have Line Out mode, even on the 3.5mm jack. This is disappointing, as I believe the device would be perfect for connecting to a car stereo Line In jack, and leaving in the car 24/7 (attached to switched power, of course, and hidden from view when the car is parked). As good as the built-in THX amps may be, they are obviously unnecessary when connecting to an external amplifier, and amplifying twice is both unnecessary and may introduce more distortion.

It would be awesome if, like most of the X-series and M-series FiiO DAPs, there was a "Line Out mode" selectable to change the 3.5mm jack between amplified and fixed line-level. It's not as though FiiO hasn't done this before!

Is there any chance that this feature could be added via a software update?

Sorry, there is no way to resolve your issue through a software upgrade.

According to my own experience, PO output is quite good in the car, you can also choose a more suitable volume.

BTR series products are positioned to connect directly to the headphones, LO has been evaluated when the product design is begin

 

[EdgeDC]

Sorry, there is no way to resolve your issue through a software upgrade.

According to my own experience, PO output is quite good in the car, you can also choose a more suitable volume.

BTR series products are positioned to connect directly to the headphones, LO has been evaluated when the product design is begin

Well that's a bummer. Surely you can see my point though... the BTR5 and BTR7 are both small and perfect to become a high-quality Bluetooth solution for many car stereo systems. FiiO obviously knows this, because you even have a "Car Mode" in the BTR5 (and presumably in the upcoming BTR7, too). However, if using it with a car stereo that has its own amplifier stage, a Line Out from the BTR device would be optimal, right? I mean - do you expect people are using Car Mode with headphones? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, IMO.

I hope that for future BTR products (especially on the higher end), FiiO considers adding a Line Out option in the design from the very start. Car Mode + Line Out would be ideal.

 

[LoryWiv]

Does the BTR7 retain the same small form factor as BTR5?

 

[FiiO Willson]

Well that's a bummer. Surely you can see my point though... the BTR5 and BTR7 are both small and perfect to become a high-quality Bluetooth solution for many car stereo systems. FiiO obviously knows this, because you even have a "Car Mode" in the BTR5 (and presumably in the upcoming BTR7, too). However, if using it with a car stereo that has its own amplifier stage, a Line Out from the BTR device would be optimal, right? I mean - do you expect people are using Car Mode with headphones? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, IMO.

I hope that for future BTR products (especially on the higher end), FiiO considers adding a Line Out option in the design from the very start. Car Mode + Line Out would be ideal.

I understand what you mean and thank you very much for your advice.

BTR7 at that time is because of the size of some components such as electronic switches can not be placed, so it was evaluated to cancel the LO

In fact, according to our testing, our current PO, and LO output indicators are very small differences, and this does not affect the use.

If you really care, it is recommended to choose our player, there are also car mode, like I am in my car put a M11 PLUS or M6

 

[FiiO Willson]

Does the BTR7 retain the same small form factor as BTR5?

Slightly larger than BTR7

EDIT:
I think a more correct answer would be to put up a comparison chart of their as much as inches

 

[EdgeDC]

Does the BTR7 retain the same small form factor as BTR5?

According to released specs:

BTR5 / BTR5 2021: 72mm x 32mm x 11.1mm (excluding back clip)
BTR7: 83.6mm x 39.6 mm x 14.2mm (presumably also excluding back clip)

So the BTR7 will be 11.6mm longer, 7.6mm wider and 3.1mm thicker than the BTR5 / BTR5 2021.

 

[ilianto]

Well that's a bummer. Surely you can see my point though... the BTR5 and BTR7 are both small and perfect to become a high-quality Bluetooth solution for many car stereo systems. FiiO obviously knows this, because you even have a "Car Mode" in the BTR5 (and presumably in the upcoming BTR7, too). However, if using it with a car stereo that has its own amplifier stage, a Line Out from the BTR device would be optimal, right? I mean - do you expect people are using Car Mode with headphones? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, IMO.

I hope that for future BTR products (especially on the higher end), FiiO considers adding a Line Out option in the design from the very start. Car Mode + Line Out would be ideal.

Hi, I am wondering why the need for a line out? Headphone out works just fine for me so far, I just need to max the volume...

 

[C4PPY]

Qualcomm Snapdragon Bluetooth?? Please say yes…

@FiiO This and hopefully support for Aptx Voice under the Aptx Adaptive part?

 

[caustic386]

But the graph shows ~320mW@32 Ohms at 0.0007% which is exactly what Fiio claims

Not yet, 320mW @ less than 1% THD+N

My fault, I see it now. Downside of looking at graphs on mobile, especially non-linear ones. I couldn't see the 300mW line.

 

[caustic386]

Very promising, our engineers are working hard to make it happen

So, for now, LDAC supports hardware GEQ? The usual 10-band?

 

[MachinistNL]

I’ll buy one. Waiting for EU release!

*Edit: Got it and it’s all I need for all purposes. Fantastic piece of gear.

Do miss a clip to hang it on a backpack strap though.

 

[EdgeDC]

Hi, I am wondering why the need for a line out? Headphone out works just fine for me so far, I just need to max the volume...

It's not just whether it "works" or not. The reason I am asking for a Line Out is because it is cleaner to only have one amplifier in the chain. If you use the (amplified) headphone out to then connect to an external amplifier (such as a car stereo), your analog signal is then going through two amplifier stages - the one inside the BTR and the one in your car stereo.

If the BTR offered a Line Out option in the car scenario, it would effectively turn it from a DAC/AMP device into just a DAC - and the only amplifier stage in use would be the one in your car's stereo. That would result in a cleaner audio signal than having two amplifiers in the chain (as good as the THX amps are, they are simply unnecessary if you plan on using a car stereo anyway).

Line Out would bypass the internal amplifiers of the BTR.

 

[Andrew_WOT]

Good explanation from Mojo thread on why double amping might not be such a big of a deal after all.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/cho...ge-95-of-thread.885405/page-291#post-16967997